Mark, I would just like to make one comment regarding your message. You write that any objections should have been sent to you off-list. I respectfully disagree. I know you like it because it allows you to handle descent privately. In this particular case you could have just squelched any objection without anyone else knowing that a concern had even been raised. May I just say that that is not very democratic. On the contrary, it's a strategy that does nothing more than breed secrecy, and that will not help the list. Also, as a list member, it was useful to me to know others' thoughts. Though I obviously favor a list that includes discussion of the complete Apple eco-environment, had I found that I was the only one who felt that way, I would have known that the best thing for me would be to go to another list. I don't say that with rancor, it's just useful to know whether one's expectations and wishes are in line with those of the rest of the community. If there is a concern regarding list policies, I think those concerns should be expressed on list, so that the entire community is made aware of them and has a voice in the discussion.
I hope that you will not encourage an environment of secret private conversations. That will destroy this list faster than just about anything else. Best, Donna > On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:56 AM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > You know, one list member wrote to me today saying that it seems as though > this list goes from one crisis to another. When I read this, I couldn’t help > but smile as, sometimes, it does appear that way. > > Well, let’s put this particular crisis to bed, shall we? > > First, let me personally thank those of you who took the time to send your > objections, words of support, or general comments, to me, off-list. > > As so many of us have observed over the years, when it comes to resolving > on-list conflicts or even policy, off-list communication, combined with a > little courtesy and patience, is very often more effective than on-list > knee-jerk reactions. > > Second, like many of you, Cara and I have been members of this particular > community for many years and have found it to be a very warm, dynamic and > informative community. > > As is the case with any community, conflicts and differences of opinion do > occur and during such instances, it is important to remember that we are a > virtual family and that we walk the proverbial accessibility path together. > > As with any well functioning forum, there must be policy to guide the flow of > communication and to preserve the integrity of the environment while > respecting and encouraging individual input to the extent that such input > does not attack, harass, or in any way cause another member to feel devalued. > > That’s asking quite a lot of a policy and to put it bluntly, such a policy is > never going to please everyone all of the time. All those of us, entrusted > with enacting, or in some instances, enforcing policy can do is to ask that > the members of the family remember that we’re all in this together. > > Third, while both Cara and I have always considered Mac Visionaries to be a > Mac OSX-centric forum, with discussions including iOS, Windows, Linux, etc as > they relate to the Mac, as many of you have pointed out, the lines between > OSX and iOS have begun to blur. Therefore, all non-beta Apple-related > discussions are welcomed on-list. This is now the current policy however I > ask you to keep in mind that all policies are subject to change, from > time-to-time. > > Fourth, I ask that you keep in mind that this can sometimes be a very high > traffic list and that part of the list management responsibility includes > insuring that the list traffic moves smoothly. To that end, we may ask that > a topic either be taken back, on-topic, or closed. Please respect that > request and if you have any objections, write to us off-list. > > Finally, let me say that it is a privilege to be a member of this family and > that I look forward to walking this path with you far into the future. > > Most Sincerely, > > Mark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
