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> On Sep 16, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mark, > > I would just like to make one comment regarding your message. You write that > any objections should have been sent to you off-list. I respectfully > disagree. I know you like it because it allows you to handle descent > privately. In this particular case you could have just squelched any > objection without anyone else knowing that a concern had even been raised. > May I just say that that is not very democratic. On the contrary, it's a > strategy that does nothing more than breed secrecy, and that will not help > the list. Also, as a list member, it was useful to me to know others' > thoughts. Though I obviously favor a list that includes discussion of the > complete Apple eco-environment, had I found that I was the only one who felt > that way, I would have known that the best thing for me would be to go to > another list. I don't say that with rancor, it's just useful to know whether > one's expectations and wishes are in line with those of the rest of the > community. If there is a concern regarding list policies, I think those > concerns should be expressed on list, so that the entire community is made > aware of them and has a voice in the discussion. > > I hope that you will not encourage an environment of secret private > conversations. That will destroy this list faster than just about anything > else. > Best, > Donna >> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:56 AM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> You know, one list member wrote to me today saying that it seems as though >> this list goes from one crisis to another. When I read this, I couldn’t >> help but smile as, sometimes, it does appear that way. >> >> Well, let’s put this particular crisis to bed, shall we? >> >> First, let me personally thank those of you who took the time to send your >> objections, words of support, or general comments, to me, off-list. >> >> As so many of us have observed over the years, when it comes to resolving >> on-list conflicts or even policy, off-list communication, combined with a >> little courtesy and patience, is very often more effective than on-list >> knee-jerk reactions. >> >> Second, like many of you, Cara and I have been members of this particular >> community for many years and have found it to be a very warm, dynamic and >> informative community. >> >> As is the case with any community, conflicts and differences of opinion do >> occur and during such instances, it is important to remember that we are a >> virtual family and that we walk the proverbial accessibility path together. >> >> As with any well functioning forum, there must be policy to guide the flow >> of communication and to preserve the integrity of the environment while >> respecting and encouraging individual input to the extent that such input >> does not attack, harass, or in any way cause another member to feel devalued. >> >> That’s asking quite a lot of a policy and to put it bluntly, such a policy >> is never going to please everyone all of the time. All those of us, >> entrusted with enacting, or in some instances, enforcing policy can do is to >> ask that the members of the family remember that we’re all in this together. >> >> Third, while both Cara and I have always considered Mac Visionaries to be a >> Mac OSX-centric forum, with discussions including iOS, Windows, Linux, etc >> as they relate to the Mac, as many of you have pointed out, the lines >> between OSX and iOS have begun to blur. Therefore, all non-beta >> Apple-related discussions are welcomed on-list. This is now the current >> policy however I ask you to keep in mind that all policies are subject to >> change, from time-to-time. >> >> Fourth, I ask that you keep in mind that this can sometimes be a very high >> traffic list and that part of the list management responsibility includes >> insuring that the list traffic moves smoothly. To that end, we may ask that >> a topic either be taken back, on-topic, or closed. Please respect that >> request and if you have any objections, write to us off-list. >> >> Finally, let me say that it is a privilege to be a member of this family and >> that I look forward to walking this path with you far into the future. >> >> Most Sincerely, >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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