George, stop being logical, that’s where you went wrong.:) I totally agree. It’s the Al Gorr thing all over again. That fat suit used to love telling us what we should and shouldn’t do all while flying around in a beautiful Gulf Stream and with an average home utility bill 50 times that of the average person. What’s the expression? Do as I say, not as I do.
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:23 AM, george b <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, > > I asked since apple is such a "green" company. As I was rubbing my hand > across the new solid oak tables, and work spaces I asked, " how many trees do > you think apple had cut down to do this in all their stors", I got no answer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 05:39 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: 10.11 and braille > > Maybe not but we don’t lie about it either.:) That whole VW / AUDI / PORSCHE > thing cracks me up especially from a country that claims to be so green. > > I don’t know about the braille literacy thing either to be fair. Now this > may have changed, I fully admit when I was in public school we still had > public schools that were worth while and they hadn’t degraded to the point > they are now but I as well as all the blind folks in my state at least > received fantastic braille training as well as mobility and each blind > student received a full free ride to college up to the cost of the degree if > it was offered in our state school or full cost if the degree was only > available outside the state or at certain universities like special technical > degrees for example. Bringing this back on topic as blind students we were > also encouraged to work with the computers which at the time were Apple 2 > series. I also had a blind teacher, in the states I believe they are called > itinerate teachers or resource teachers who work with blind and other > disabled students to augment the class room. Maybe things have changed but > at least when I went to school we had a pretty good deal? I see a lot of > European blind engineers on different lists so I suspect you have something > similarly forward thinking available across the pond? > > Oh and to the original poster and you, I’m in total agreement. I’m not sure > if the problem is that Apple doesn’t produce the hardware, I don’t suspect > that it’s but what ever the reason the braille support is lacking and > seriously lacking at that. What’s interesting is the support is quite a bit > better on the phone. Braille at least with the focus 40 I’m using on the > iPhone isn’t half bad, on the Mac though it’s just about unusable. Could be > the guy behind the keyboard (pointing at myself) but others have agreed so I > don’t think it’s just me. > > > > >> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Nah Anders, I feel your pain completely. Even iOS has acceptable braille >> support, so it’s not as if they couldn’t port that over to OS X. Clearly >> nobody at Apple uses or cares about braille. Probably because it doesn’t >> make them any money from hardware sales. Kinda tragic. >> >> Hey Scott, you can stop trolling now. The grand old US of A isn’t exactly >> known for its braille literacy or deep regard for environmentalism either. :) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
