Its been a while since I did a clean install. But now that I have Windows installed under Bootcamp, I have done many boots holding that option key. I wait a bit then arrow once and I am on the Bootcamp drive and hot enter.

If there are other external drives connected, you might want to disconnect all. Better chance of landing on that bootable drive.

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On 10/16/2015 5:32 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
Ok so this is strange as I followed what you suggested to do using option 
holding down while starting the computer then trying to turn VO on after 5 
minutes which did not work. So I made a FAcetime call to a sighted person to 
read me my screen and was presented with a password field. I entered my 
computer password and now am getting a spinning wheel. Ever hear of this 
before? Thanks,
On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Brian,

This is Mark.

One can absolutely perform a clean install, without sighted assistance, 
provided that they use the Startup Disk option located in the System 
Preferences panel.

The general order of things are as follows:

1.
While your Mac is booted up to it's normal finder Desktop, insert a USB key 
containing the install of your preferred OS, into the Mac..

2.
 From the Apple menu, select System Preferences.

3.
Select Startup Disk.

4.
Now, select the USB key in which you want to boot when the computer restarts.

5.
Restart the Mac and it will boot directly into the USB key.

6.
Now, enable VoiceOver and you're good to go.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

Chris then how do people say you can do this without sighted help? As I have 
read people have been doing clean installs via a bootable usb drive with VO. 
Thanks,
On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> 
wrote:

I cannot tell you if there is only one thing you're tabbing to, or how many 
times to do so.  That depends on how many startup disk volumes are configured 
on your system.

You do have the general idea correct though.

As for when to turn on Voiceover, once the system boots, then turn it on. You 
may have to try several times, but eventually, it should come up.

I hope you're not running into the same nightmare I ran into.

Finally, I wound up having to reformat and just install from scratch with a 
bootable USB drive, and not run a disk backup image.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Fischler" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck


Chris,


Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer while holding 
down the option key, then hit tab and enter? Is there only one thing I am 
tabbing to? When do I try and turn VO back on? Thanks,
On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Don't arrow.  That's your problem.  You wanna hit the tab key when in the boot 
menu.  Tab and shift tab.  Don't arrow.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Fischler" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 PM
Subject: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck


Hey all,

So I started my roll back to Yosemite and am stuck. I was able to erase the El 
Crapitan from my hard drive but do not seem to get VO running when I try and 
boot up with my bootable USB Install Yosemite drive. Everything I have read 
says you have to restart your computer and hold the option screen to get to the 
screen with your bootable thumb drive on it. For some reason I am thinking this 
screen might not work with VO as I waited over an hour and could not get VO to 
turn on. Does anyone happen to know how to arrow without VO running to get your 
bootable disc to launch? If not, is there anyway to boot in to your drive using 
disk utility as I am back in disc utility but do not see anywhere I can do this 
and selecting reinstall OS and hitting continue just gives me a you are not 
connected to the internet error message. Thanks for any help.

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