Well unfortunately the clean install seems to have completely broken my mac. This whole experience from El Capitan to the clean install has been awful. The clean install process took hours with VO not speaking or being responsive through a lot of it. When I got to the setup menu VO would start reading a sentence and then stop. I had to toggle VO on and off several times to get it to start reading. I could not connect to my wifi network during the setup process as the password field would not come up not even trying window chooser would show it so I had to continue selecting my computer does not connect to the internet. Since the setup process has completed VO is awful as it will start reading something then stop not even finish reading what it is focus on. VO is more unstable then it has ever been. Programs will not launch, and I am getting static constantly when VO speaks as if I was moving to a radio station that was not there. Absolutely awful experience, and yeah I will be calling Apple Accessibility when they open. Very disappointed overall with Apple and this experience. > On Oct 17, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would just like to point something out to Mark. I hope he does not mind. > > Last week, I arraised my SSD drive on my I mac, and whilst there was nothing > on it, I put my USB key in to the mac without choosing the start up disk in > preferences. I then put the Mac on and after 3 or 4 minutes, pressed command > F5 and I was in the menu of whether or not I wanted to install El Capitan. > > Thanks. > > Kawal. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17 Oct 2015, at 1:12 a.m., M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Brian, >> >> This is Mark. >> >> One can absolutely perform a clean install, without sighted assistance, >> provided that they use the Startup Disk option located in the System >> Preferences panel. >> >> The general order of things are as follows: >> >> 1. >> While your Mac is booted up to it's normal finder Desktop, insert a USB key >> containing the install of your preferred OS, into the Mac.. >> >> 2. >> From the Apple menu, select System Preferences. >> >> 3. >> Select Startup Disk. >> >> 4. >> Now, select the USB key in which you want to boot when the computer restarts. >> >> 5. >> Restart the Mac and it will boot directly into the USB key. >> >> 6. >> Now, enable VoiceOver and you're good to go. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:01 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck >> >> Chris then how do people say you can do this without sighted help? As I have >> read people have been doing clean installs via a bootable usb drive with VO. >> Thanks, >>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I cannot tell you if there is only one thing you're tabbing to, or how many >>> times to do so. That depends on how many startup disk volumes are >>> configured on your system. >>> >>> You do have the general idea correct though. >>> >>> As for when to turn on Voiceover, once the system boots, then turn it on. >>> You may have to try several times, but eventually, it should come up. >>> >>> I hope you're not running into the same nightmare I ran into. >>> >>> Finally, I wound up having to reformat and just install from scratch with a >>> bootable USB drive, and not run a disk backup image. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Fischler" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck >>> >>> >>> Chris, >>> >>> >>> Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer while >>> holding down the option key, then hit tab and enter? Is there only one >>> thing I am tabbing to? When do I try and turn VO back on? Thanks, >>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't arrow. That's your problem. You wanna hit the tab key when in the >>>> boot menu. Tab and shift tab. Don't arrow. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Fischler" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 PM >>>> Subject: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck >>>> >>>> >>>> Hey all, >>>> >>>> So I started my roll back to Yosemite and am stuck. I was able to erase >>>> the El Crapitan from my hard drive but do not seem to get VO running when >>>> I try and boot up with my bootable USB Install Yosemite drive. Everything >>>> I have read says you have to restart your computer and hold the option >>>> screen to get to the screen with your bootable thumb drive on it. For some >>>> reason I am thinking this screen might not work with VO as I waited over >>>> an hour and could not get VO to turn on. Does anyone happen to know how to >>>> arrow without VO running to get your bootable disc to launch? If not, is >>>> there anyway to boot in to your drive using disk utility as I am back in >>>> disc utility but do not see anywhere I can do this and selecting reinstall >>>> OS and hitting continue just gives me a you are not connected to the >>>> internet error message. 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