ok. well, I haven't installed El Capitan here as yet (not sure my 2007 vintage whitebook would even allow it to install). THere are one or 2 other issues I have been having on this white book of mine (some random crashes of voiceover, generally due to web page code viewed via safari). Also, lately, the fan has been running all the time, even when I have nothing going on the desktop. so far, looking through the logs hasn't revealed the issue.
any ideas? -eric On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > MacPaw actually has an offering called CleanMyPC, which has no relation to > the tuneup utility BitDefender provides. If it has, I'm not aware of it, > since it is vastly different and only included with other products and > neither company has given credit to each other. > > With that out of the way, you can trust CleanMyMac. I own a copy, although > it's for various reasons. > > sudo periodic daily weekly monthly > > runs all maintenance scripts at the same time. You can verify they have run > by typing > > ls -al /var/log/*.out > > Saying that, beyond doing what the maintenance scripts do, they don't > actually clean up application leftovers. Depending on the app, you can have > support files, caches, plugins, libraries, preferences, and saved states. The > maintenance scripts primarily deal with logging, at least from what I can > tell when looking at them including log files. The leftovers are really where > I gain some space back. I used to look for these manually. > > Despite that "dragging an application to the trash deletes everything" that > isn't true with everything. I've found that to be the case with most > applications I have, but I still see some that leave associated files around. > You aren't going to get those unless you set up a cronjob to look for them, > either based on a schedule or when the maintenance scripts last ran. Of > course, looking for those paths is easy enough to do, so it's not as big of a > deal, but it's still time you could spend on doing something else. That's > been my own experiences ever since I first started running OS X, in > particular with apps not from the Mac App Store. Looking through > /library/Application Support, it's easy to tell which apps require a bit more > work before all of it is gone. Of course, bottom line is that you don't > actually need to shell out any money for apps at all, since you can do it > yourself. CleanMyMac and Cocktail just make it easier. Oddly enough, the > article only mentions caching and logging, but not the application deletion > misconception. I always hear "just drag it to the trash and it's gone" which > just glancing at folders shows that isn't always correct. Dragging .app to > the trash doesn't clear associated files elsewhere. Of course, with apps from > the Mac App Store this shouldn't be an issue. > > Food for thought. CleanMyMac already does all of that, so it's fairly useful > if for no other reason than it automatically warns you if any leftovers are > still around when deleting applications. It's easy enough to forget about. > > Nicolai >> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote: >> >> In this case it’s actually legit and the name is merely unfortunately >> similar to the dubious Windows program. >> >> I still wouldn’t use it, though. Here’s as good an explanation as any of >> why Macs really, really don’t and shouldn’t need “cleaning”: >> http://www.thesafemac.com/the-myth-of-the-dirty-mac/ >> >> A Mac that is on 24/7 has a slight advantage here over that which is on only >> occasionally, but not by much. 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