well, given its current condition, if I try to charge it, there might be n 
explosive situation develop real fast. I have been debating whether or not to 
get a new battery or save what I can and hope to get a new macbook. given my 
bills of late, saving is out of the question.

-eric

On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> So could it explode?  Just be careful when using it and if you can use the 
> machine without the battery then that would be preferable.
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 00:46, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> basically, it aged. most Lithium Ion batteries start to swell a little with 
>> age. It also doesn't help if its left on recharge all the time. The battery 
>> for this white book was the original issue and started swelling about 2 
>> years ago. It got to the point where it was causing random keyboard key 
>> presses. Li-ion batteries are known for this type of issue. They are also 
>> massively unstable under the right conditions (its like having a hand 
>> grenade waiting to go off).
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> How does a battery get swollen?
>>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 02:22, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> right now, I am not even running with a battery. I am using only the power 
>>>> supply to run this thing. the battery is swollen to the point of not even 
>>>> being able to fit the case. Also, I don't have the funds to go and get it 
>>>> replaced. so, I do what I can with what I got.
>>>> 
>>>> -eric
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder whether your battery is causing overheating.  I had this issue 
>>>>> on my old Macbook pro similar age as yours, and at that time a search on 
>>>>> the internet revealed that the likely cause was the age of the battery.  
>>>>> I had to change it and things had improved.  Just a suggestion.
>>>>>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 20:23, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ok. well, I haven't installed El Capitan here as yet (not sure my 2007 
>>>>>> vintage whitebook would even allow it to install). THere are one or 2 
>>>>>> other issues I have been having on this white book of mine (some random 
>>>>>> crashes of voiceover, generally due to web page code viewed via safari). 
>>>>>> Also, lately, the fan has been running all the time, even when I have 
>>>>>> nothing going on the desktop. so far, looking through the logs hasn't 
>>>>>> revealed the issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> any ideas?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> MacPaw actually has an offering called CleanMyPC, which has no relation 
>>>>>>> to the tuneup utility BitDefender provides. If it has, I'm not aware of 
>>>>>>> it, since it is vastly different and only included with other products 
>>>>>>> and neither company has given credit to each other.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With that out of the way, you can trust CleanMyMac. I own a copy, 
>>>>>>> although it's for various reasons.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> runs  all maintenance scripts at the same time. You can verify they 
>>>>>>> have run by typing
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ls -al /var/log/*.out
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Saying that, beyond doing what the maintenance scripts do, they don't 
>>>>>>> actually clean up application leftovers. Depending on the app, you can 
>>>>>>> have support files, caches, plugins, libraries, preferences, and saved 
>>>>>>> states. The maintenance scripts primarily deal with logging, at least 
>>>>>>> from what I can tell when looking at them including log files. The 
>>>>>>> leftovers are really where I gain some space back. I used to look for 
>>>>>>> these manually.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Despite that "dragging an application to the trash deletes everything" 
>>>>>>> that isn't true with everything. I've found that to be the case with 
>>>>>>> most applications I have, but I still see some that leave associated 
>>>>>>> files around. You aren't going to get those unless you set up a cronjob 
>>>>>>> to look for them, either based on a schedule or when the maintenance 
>>>>>>> scripts last ran. Of course, looking for those paths is easy enough to 
>>>>>>> do, so it's not as big of a deal, but it's still time you could spend 
>>>>>>> on doing something else. That's been my own experiences ever since I 
>>>>>>> first started running OS X, in particular with apps not from the Mac 
>>>>>>> App Store. Looking through /library/Application Support, it's easy to 
>>>>>>> tell which apps require a bit more work before all of it is gone. Of 
>>>>>>> course, bottom line is that you don't actually need to shell out any 
>>>>>>> money for apps at all, since you can do it yourself. CleanMyMac and 
>>>>>>> Cocktail just make it easier. Oddly enough, the article only mentions 
>>>>>>> caching and logging, but not the application deletion misconception. I 
>>>>>>> always hear "just drag it to the trash and it's gone" which just 
>>>>>>> glancing at folders shows that isn't always correct. Dragging .app to 
>>>>>>> the trash doesn't clear associated files elsewhere. Of course, with 
>>>>>>> apps from the Mac App Store this shouldn't be an issue.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Food for thought. CleanMyMac already does all of that, so it's fairly 
>>>>>>> useful if for no other reason than it automatically warns you if any 
>>>>>>> leftovers are still around when deleting applications. It's easy enough 
>>>>>>> to forget about.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nicolai
>>>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In this case it’s actually legit and the name is merely unfortunately 
>>>>>>>> similar to the dubious Windows program.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I still wouldn’t use it, though.  Here’s as good an explanation as any 
>>>>>>>> of why Macs really, really don’t and shouldn’t need “cleaning”:
>>>>>>>> http://www.thesafemac.com/the-myth-of-the-dirty-mac/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A Mac that is on 24/7 has a slight advantage here over that which is 
>>>>>>>> on only occasionally, but not by much.  Use “sudo periodic interval” 
>>>>>>>> (daily/weekly/monthly) if your Mac is frequently shut down.
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