That was a separate suggestion.

Along with celebrating the battery I suggested a reboot after upgrading using 
that method.  They are not done together or mutually exclusive in anyway two 
independent things.  If you don’t reboot it’s not a problem.  Think of that 
move as a soft reset.

> On Oct 28, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott.
> 
> Thanks for the article.  The article didn’t mention what you said, hold the 
> home and power button together and boot your phone etc to calibrate the 
> battery.  Does that mean that you don’t need to do that anymore?
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:12, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> As promised, here you go.  It’s the first thing that pops up in google.  
>> There are hundreds if not thousands of articles on the subject ranging 
>> across the OS’s but here’s a pointer to the latest. 
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/
>> 
>> Also covers Macs and the watch.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Dan <ablindvou...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I'd love to read that info if it's still available.
>>> But again, it doesn't say anything in the manual about calibrating the 
>>> battery. But I'll still stick to my practice of discharging the battery 
>>> every so often.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s the big problem, these built in celebration systems do not allow 
>>>> the electrons to flow in the materials in the battery.  It’s very 
>>>> important that you fully discharge at least monthly to allow the electrons 
>>>> to rearrange.
>>>> I got this information originally from the apple website itself, no idea 
>>>> if the document is still up there but I’ll check and forward on if it is.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Dan <ablindvou...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> A few things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. None of this is in the iPhone guide.
>>>>> 2.Infact I called Apple and was told that the device and software totally 
>>>>> manage battery health and that it isn't necessary to calibrate the 
>>>>> battery.
>>>>> Now, after saying that, I have made it a point to occasionally discharge 
>>>>> the battery to shutdown and then after a while more than an hour 
>>>>> reconnect and charge completely.
>>>>> I am sure that at one time this was really necessary, but according to 
>>>>> apple, as of iOS 9.0, this is no longer necessary.
>>>>> Unfortunately, I don't know who I spoke with.
>>>>> Just my thoughts and comments on the subject.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This tells the circuits in the battery to drop their settings and 
>>>>>> recalibrate.  I’m not sure if it fully discharges or if it’s something 
>>>>>> built in to the software.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> Why is it nessesarry to wait an hour or maybe more before recharging?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:45, Scott Berry <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There are different ways.  Some people apparently say one hour some 
>>>>>>>> say over night.  You must perform the reset while the phone is at 100 
>>>>>>>> percent power and it is plugged in.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:44 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Scott,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your 
>>>>>>>>> recommended 1 hour before beginning the recharge.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before 
>>>>>>>>> recharging.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Should I perform the hard reset when the phone is at 0% power? or at 
>>>>>>>>> 100% full power.  Does it matter if the phone is connected to a power 
>>>>>>>>> outlet at the time of the hard reset?  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mark  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:47 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark, yes I mean let the phone draw until it self powers down. 
>>>>>>>>> Then wait an additional hour or so after this point and charge it 
>>>>>>>>> fully with a complete cycle.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Let me know if that’s more clear.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:16 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Scott,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our 
>>>>>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you ever so much for the tips on how to calibrate my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>> battery.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I will do exactly as you suggest.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have already rebooted the phone and I have forced a reset via 
>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously pressing both the Home and Power button until the 
>>>>>>>>>> device restarted by displaying the Apple Logo.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> One question:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> When you say "completely drain the battery", do you mean let the 
>>>>>>>>>> battery drain all the way down until the phone will no longer power 
>>>>>>>>>> on? Past all of the warnings?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you again,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 5:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mark on iOS 9.1, So Far
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mark, I think I can help you on the battery front.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm running the 6S+ with 9.1, a 6 with 9.1 and several iPads with 
>>>>>>>>>> 9.1.  
>>>>>>>>>> When you first start out with a device the battery circuits need a 
>>>>>>>>>> bit 
>>>>>>>>>> of celebration.  It's not like the old days where a battery was just 
>>>>>>>>>> a battery.
>>>>>>>>>> There's complex little circuits embedded in the batteries that 
>>>>>>>>>> actually control their discharge and manage their operation.  These 
>>>>>>>>>> need to calibrate and this is also why you should calibrate your 
>>>>>>>>>> phone once per month or so.
>>>>>>>>>> Charge and fully discharge the phone a few times and you should see 
>>>>>>>>>> far better battery life.  Also, once you install the OS and the 
>>>>>>>>>> phone 
>>>>>>>>>> restarts, reboot it one time further.  Use the holding of the home 
>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>> power buttons to accomplish this.  A restart after the phone 
>>>>>>>>>> initially 
>>>>>>>>>> boots has also helped me clear many a drain issue.  Once your new 
>>>>>>>>>> installs stabilize I think you'll find that your battery life has 
>>>>>>>>>> improved.  Let me know if this helps at all.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers.  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>>>> However, given that I have been in an ongoing dialog with Apple 
>>>>>>>>>>> engineers, I am a little disappointed that the camera app zoom 
>>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver bug still persist.  However, on a positive note, at 
>>>>>>>>>>> least, 
>>>>>>>>>>> enabling VoiceOver, after zooming in on an image, no longer cancels 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> zoom.  Baby steps, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>> (smile).  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>> I am surprised at how much I miss having the time announced when 
>>>>>>>>>>> waking the phone.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it's just me but I swear the quality of Samantha has been 
>>>>>>>>>>> greatly degraded in this version.  I just don't understand why, 
>>>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>>>> every major release since iOS 6.x, the quality of Samantha has been
>>>>>>>>>> steadily declining.
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, this is just my opinion.  What I do find interesting is 
>>>>>>>>>>> that Samantha's pronunciation of words that were absolutely correct 
>>>>>>>>>>> in iOS 8, has been changed and are now incorrect in iOS 9.1.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In iOS 8.x, I found the high quality version of the Samantha voice 
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat pleasant, in iOS 9.x, I find it unsettling, to say the 
>>>>>>>>>>> least.
>>>>>>>>>>> I cannot imagine having the current Samantha voice reading long 
>>>>>>>>>>> stretches of texts, whereas in the previous iOS, this would not 
>>>>>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>>>>>> even been at issue.  Is Apple trying to force everyone to Alex?  
>>>>>>>>>>> (Yes, a
>>>>>>>>>> conspiracy theory).
>>>>>>>>>>> (Smile).   
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the SMS Reply To dictation feedback problem is very, very 
>>>>>>>>>>> annoying.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For those who disagree, let me say that I respect your opinion.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the feedback is not much of a problem if one dictates using 
>>>>>>>>>>> either a Bluetooth or wired headset.  I suppose it is not much of 
>>>>>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>>>>>> issue if one only dictates
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 or 2 words.  However, if one attempts to dictate a full sentence, 
>>>>>>>>>>> then the feedback becomes problematic as a kind of feedback loop 
>>>>>>>>>>> ensues causing a great deal of random text to be inserted as Siri, 
>>>>>>>>>>> hearing VoiceOver, begins to dictate to itself.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>>> I know this comes up every time a new OS is released but it seems 
>>>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>>>> me as though my battery drains faster since updating from 8.x to 
>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1.
>>>>>>>>>>> I just turned off a lot of items that were active in the background 
>>>>>>>>>>> app refresh area so I'll see how it goes.  However, I can tell you 
>>>>>>>>>>> that I updated a total of three 6 plus phones, yesterday, two from 
>>>>>>>>>>> iOS 9.0.2.  Now, even though both of those two phones that were 
>>>>>>>>>>> already running 9.x, were plugged into an outlet at the time of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> update, via OTA, both had less charge after updating than they did, 
>>>>>>>>>>> before the update began.  I've never seen such a thing before.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 6.
>>>>>>>>>>> As always, I have sent my findings to Apple.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 7.
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, and I want to be clear on this:  Updating the OS OTA
>>>>>>>>>>> (over-the-air) is in no way the same as installing it from iTunes 
>>>>>>>>>>> via 
>>>>>>>>>>> a USB cable.  For whatever reason, there does seem to be a pattern 
>>>>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>>>>> more problems when going from iOS 8.x to 9.x via OTA.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What is the difference between the OTA method and the iTunes 
>>>>>>>>>>> method?  
>>>>>>>>>>> In short, updating OTA does not rewrite the file allocation table 
>>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>>> file structures, just for starters.  When you update via iTunes, it 
>>>>>>>>>>> is as if you are doing a fresh install as all of the file tables 
>>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>>> data clusters are actually rewritten to the disk..
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Want proof of this?  No problem, here's how to verify the 
>>>>>>>>>>> difference.  
>>>>>>>>>>> When you use the OTA method, you will notice that any custom 
>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard 
>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts you may have added remain, after the update.  However, 
>>>>>>>>>>> when 
>>>>>>>>>>> you update via iTunes, you will discover that only default keyboard 
>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts exist, meaning you will have to rewrite your custom 
>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I wish I could lay claim to having learned about the difference 
>>>>>>>>>>> between the two methods, independently but I was told of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> difference by a senior Apple iOS design engineer.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be honest, I have not used the iTunes method since the OTA 
>>>>>>>>>>> option became available but now that I have had several of my 
>>>>>>>>>>> recent 
>>>>>>>>>>> syncing problems resolved after having used the iTunes method, I'll 
>>>>>>>>>>> probably use it from now on, when possible.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
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