i did and it said quick nav on so i clicked it again and it said quick nav off. i have pages open right now, i have a blank document, i typed a silly sentence and tried to navigate i noticed something strange. i tried shift arrow down to select text by line and voiceover said nothing, but when i somehow got to the end of the text and i pressed shift arrow up it selected the text. So it's selecting text upwards but not downwards any ideas? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: November-17-15 8:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: upgrading my mac Hi Zoe, do you perhaps have QuickNav on? Try pressing the left and right-arrow keys together, and see if VO says "QuickNav off". If it reports "QuickNav on", press them again, because off is the correct state for the kind of navigation you're trying to perform. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 18/11/2015, at 9:41 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <[email protected]> wrote: oh it's ok, the truth is I've really been working my mind over time and using shrook I've been able to figure out how to read a recipe and even copy it and paste it into a pages document so now my issues are how to navigate pages and edit. I figure I might as well as figure this out before I even think of upgrading. Something seems to be wrong because no matter what command I use on pages I keep hearing menu extras so I'm really stuck but I'm not giving up yet. Thanks for trying
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Agent086b Sent: November-17-15 3:34 PM To: Mac List Subject: Re: upgrading my mac Hi, my wife took a look at the site and she can not see any way of switching it to English. Sorry we can’t help. Max. On 17 Nov 2015, at 8:37 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <[email protected]> wrote: It's in Greek, apparently I've been told the site can be switched to English but can't tell you how it's done. The website is www.argiro.gr I've been clicking on recent recipes and shrook pops up but I only get as far as the recipe titles with shrook. I've been searching for hints on how to use shrook but no luck as of yet. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Agent086b Sent: November-16-15 4:20 PM To: Mac List Subject: Re: upgrading my mac Hi, if you would like to provide the link we can take a look. I have a sited wife who may be able to give me some pointers. Max. On 17 Nov 2015, at 8:12 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <[email protected]> wrote: Hi there it's a famous greek chef who infuses traditional greek cooking with a modern touch. The website is in Greek so it wouldn't be of any benefit to you guys, unless you have sited help. Apparently the boy who tried to help me last year from the accessibility team at apple was sighted and he was able to click on a link and switch the website to English. He actually said he liked the site and he would try out a few of the recipes. I don't know how to switch the web site to English. The problem is I visit the website everyday and with mac I haven't been able to figure it out. With windows all I do is go to the website arrow down with one finger until I hear recent recipes, click enter and then I arrow down until I hear a title of a recipe that I like and hit enter again. Then I arrow through the recipe and hold shift arrow down and copy it and then paste it into a word document. Literally the whole process takes me a minute or so. I want to do it with the mac because Idon't want to go back to windows but unfortunately I can't figure it out, and no one on the list was able to help. Sincerely zoe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: November-16-15 3:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: upgrading my mac So what is your favourite website? Some of us might like to try it. Cheers, Anne On 16 Nov 2015, at 20:48, Zoe Fiogkos <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, you are right about yosemity not being available. I called apple accessibility and they told me the same thing. I looked under purchased and no cigar, yosemity isn't there. Since I'm such a beginner with the mac and everyone seems to be complaining about el capitan I didn't want to complicate things further for my self. I all ready gave up on the mac a year ago when I realized I couldn't navigate my favourite web site. I guess for now I'll stick with mavricks until everyone seems more comfortable with it and hopefully I won't quit this time around. Regards Zoe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: November-16-15 2:26 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: upgrading my mac A clean install is throwing away everything on the disk and starting afresh just using the new operating system. Programs, settings, etc. will be deleted from the original installation. It’s a good option because there is nothing left behind, which guarantees a good experience, but it does mean you end up having to set everything back up again just the way you want it, reinstall your software, and so on. It’s the route I prefer. The bad news: in your case, you probably don’t have the choice of Yosemite. I could be wrong about this; check under Purchases under the App Store to see if you have Yosemite available. 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