I agree, Nic.  It seems like if the program is localized, the speech/ 
voice should be as well.
Donna
On Nov 16, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I have to agree wholeheartedly. Not to start a debate here, but many  
> languages are usually forgotten. What strikes me as ridiculous in  
> this instance, however, is the language is actually supported for  
> the operating system, but no voices exist to support the claim.  
> Which, in my opinion, is completely outrageous and there should be a  
> fix to this. Americans do not have to purchase voices, because they  
> get an American voice by default. So why should many other countries  
> have to spend even more money? On the Windows-side, at least, non- 
> English speaking people probably spend enough on the screen reader  
> alone if they are  not funded. I know this from personal experience.  
> And, let's not forget how long it actually takes for the funding to  
> be approved. In Denmark, ever since my part of the country became a  
> region, the procedure of getting anything approved has been this:
>
> 1. Send in a request, stating why you need this equipment or  
> software, and what benefits it will provide to you.
> 2. In a couple of months, you will be holding a letter stating that  
> your request has been taken into consideration, and you will receive  
> a notice shortly.
> 3. You will receive said notice, and you will be told a meeting is  
> to be held Wednesday within possibly a couple of weeks.
> 4. The meeting has been held, and it has been decided you are going  
> to go to the institute so they can evaluate your needs again.
> 5. The long-awaited decision that most certainly will take forever  
> and a day.
>
> In about two to three months, you might be lucky enough to get a  
> reply. With all that waiting, you might as well not get it funded  
> but it pay for it yourself. Which, I might add, still seems  
> ridiculous since it should not be necessary to have to pay for  
> localized voices, as the operating system itself has already been  
> translated.
>
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Ok, i'll probably get lynched by americans and other anglosaxen  
>> people on this list for saying this, but sometimes, the anglosaxen  
>> folks tend to forget that there's a world outside their language  
>> sphere. When a program or speech synth is "multi lingual" it often  
>> mean various dialects of english, spanish, german, french and so on  
>> but small odd languages like Swedish, Norwegian, Danish and so on  
>> are often forgotten. Too bad, but that's the way of the world, shrug.
>> /Krister
>>
>> 15 nov 2009 kl. 21.05 skrev Donna Goodin:
>>
>>>
>>> Wow, that's just amazing.  Over the years I've worked with/known a
>>> number of blind individuals in other countries who simply did not  
>>> have
>>> access to the financial resources needed to purchase a PC and a  
>>> screen-
>>> reader, and who, consequently, just went without.  The Mac could be
>>> such a great answer for people in that situation.  I mean, granted,
>>> buying an InfoVox voice is still cheaper than the PC with screen-
>>> reader route, but still, even that cost would have been  
>>> prohibitive to
>>> some of the people I am thinking of.  It also deprives them of the  
>>> out-
>>> of-the-box access that we English speakers have been enjoying so  
>>> very
>>> much.
>>>
>>> Don't misunderstand, I'm not slamming Apple, I just think that their
>>> inclusivity ought to include people outside the English-speaking
>>> world.  I think I'll join you in your hammering. :)
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, licensing issues, I should have thought of that.  Still, if
>>>>> that's
>>>>> the case, how is it that they can be included on the iphone?
>>>> According to Apple, they are licensed specifically for the iPhone
>>>> and iPod Shuffle. I've been hammering Apple about this for at least
>>>> four years but they're not budging.
>>>>
>>>> The only concession to non-English speakers I got from Apple was  
>>>> the
>>>> change from contracted to uncontracted Braille during installation.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
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> >
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