Hi, I'm very grateful to Anders, Sabahattin and others for this discussion. I can see what I must do now to improve my network setup. I've just ordered the Draytek v130, and I will make it my modem and allow my Airport Extreme to handle everything else. I feel that it should improve infinitely the speed and reliability of my network. At present I have my airport extreme set up in bridge mode and my modem router handles NaT, DHcP, port forwarding, and it is not such a great machine but free modem router from my ISP. So my airport extreme with all its huge potential is sitting there providing just wifi whilst it could work at the potential for which it is designed. I've never quite understood these things until now. I'm very nervous though because I've not configured my airport extreme in this way before, so I don't know what to expect when my modem arrives. I obviously will have to reconfigure my airport extreme but I'm not sure how it's going to be, and whether I will be successful. The last thing I want to do is to mess up my network for everybody else in the house; they won't be happy! Will I have to reset my airport extreme to factory setting before I connect it to the DrayTek v130 modem? Or can I just connect it and then through airport utility change the setting from bridge to router function? I've searched the internet for instructions but I find vague references to this and with an earlier version of DrayTek v120. I'd appreciate any tips or advice.
Many thanks Andrew > On 29 Dec 2015, at 02:09, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Anders, > > Long message ahead. I have replied inline for clarity. > > On 28 Dec 2015, at 20:46, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> Now when answering your message its a dsl modem with router built-in. >> I have that as a nat and use the airport extreme as a bridge. >> Maybe i should try to reverse the setting so that my modem is a bridge and >> my airport is a nat. > > Yeah, if you can. Lets AirPort handle your public IP address, NAT, port > forwarding, and all that. However, maybe not the best option if your DSL > modem is actually a better router because it handles your DSL connection at > full frame sizes, without PPPoE overhead. In my experience though, most ISP > routers are horribly outperformed by hardware you get yourself, including > AirPort. It may even not be possible, for example PPPoA generally cannot be > bridged without special hardware, forcing you to use your “Modem” as your NAT > router. You will need to investigate your options. If you don’t mind, buy > another modem; I recommend Draytek v130. This will in fact bridge PPPoA, and > pass PPP directly through to AirPort as PPPoE. Now put your > username/password into AirPort, and get a very nice, reliable setup, entirely > controlled by AirPort. This is a great way to turn any legacy DSL connection > into Ethernet, and make AirPort work with any connection type. These babies > even support baby jumbo, so if you ever get an alternative router to AirPort > that knows how to handle large packets, it need only support an Ethernet port > to give you the full capacity of your DSL/VDSL connection. I use one now; > they’re very sweet. > >> But how will i go with my other airport base stations i have? >> I have two airport express. >> Do i have to set them up to or will they automatically join the network? > > Tell them to “Join” your existing network. You can do this during the > initial setup process; zap them with AirPort Utility to factory settings and > you’ll be asked how to configure them. “Joining” an AirPort network will see > your Express configured as a WDS replicator. You can then use the Ethernet > ports on your Express to attach devices to your network, in addition of > course to using it as a wireless extender and, optionally, AirPlay receiver > and print server. Being able to wirelessly connect ethernet-equipped devices > to your network is way cool. :) > > There is an important catch I think you should understand, though. Your > wireless devices connected by way of the receiver are only capable of “N” > speeds. Moreover, only half of “N” speeds, theoretically. Your bandwidth is > chopped into half because the signal is now taking two hops, and the Express > is not yet an AC-capable device. A hidden preference, accessible only with > the older AirPort Utility 5.6 available for Windows, can fix it so wireless > clients do not associate with your Express devices, but this would of course > render them rather useless as wireless extenders; they will then only be > Ethernet extenders. If you are finding that your speeds are particularly > poor because of your Express extenders, and you really need your extenders to > get the desired coverage, and you have no other means to wire your AirPort > units together (Ethernet, HomePlug, etc), and perhaps because they are often > providing the best signal at any given time, then I can only suggest you tell > your Extreme to broadcast separate SSIDs for 2.4 and 5 GHz bands, and connect > only your most critical high-throughput devices to the Extreme on 5 GHz, > leaving the remainder behind on 2.4 GHz at “N” speeds, extended by your > AirPort Express, and ensuring that your speed-critical devices are never > dragged down to “N” speeds. It’s either that, or get more AirPort Extremes > as extenders to push out your AC network. > >> I have a macbook which does not use an ethernet port. >> If i buy a thunderbolt to ethernet adaptor would this in any case decrease >> the speed? > > The Thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptor is not as high-performance as one might > hope, but it will, in most cases, smash the performance of any wireless > networks, including AC networks. It’s always preferable to wireless just for > reliability. AC is supposed to be able to reach close to gigabit speed, but > it is a rare thing indeed, if for no other reason than that most devices > don’t have the radios for it. > > You can configure wired and wireless connections on the same Mac. OS X uses > the correct one. Plug in when you can. > > There were a few reports of specific brands of modems not negotiating the > correct speed with AirPort. These should be very rare and are abnormal. > AirPort Extreme has a gigabit port on the outside, and gigabit ports on the > inside. Cable should not give you any trouble. 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