Chuck,
Feel free to email me off list if you want to know the truth.
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/22/2016 10:16 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
Hi E.T.
Apparently you haven't read the constitution and the bill of rights!
If your open to learning about the USA history here you go;
http://billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/constitution/
Also heres what being politically correct gets you!
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/06/judge-jeanine-neighbors-of-san-bernardino-attackers-afraid-of-being-called-islamaphobic-part-of-islamic-terrorist-plan/
Barack Hussein Obama is ultimately approving the home land security and FBI Iphone
"power grab",
And all the other privacy's we have and them being usurped!
Power corrupts! But absolute power corrupts absolutely!
PS I know!
You believe ancient aliens brought us the iphone! LOL
YMWV
Chuck
On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:16 PM, E.T. wrote:
All I will say to this is that this country was not founded on biblical
principles.
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On 2/22/2016 9:09 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
Hi Scott,
I agree 1776 was a great year!
This discussion wouldn't be taking place if we had "locked down" the
borders and through out all the illegals in the USA!
Thats correct I & the majority of the heartland of the USA are not
politically correct and we dig it!
I'd rather be "biblically Correct" than politically correct any day!
Thank GOD for the second amendment! :)
HTH
Chuck
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On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Just one thing that to me puts a whole in your argument all though
really well made by the way.
The FBI actually reset the phone while in it’s possession. So it’s
come out in the US news, KGO radio specifically as part of their local
coverage is reporting that the FBI hard reset the phone while in their
possession and Apple is now being asked to reconstruct that data as
well ad decrypt anything etc.
Personally this just indicates what I’ve always believed, FBI stands
for Fat, Bald and Ignorant. These are bulls in a china closet trying
to scare us in to submission.
You make strong points and I whole heartedly support your cries for
strong, real cryptography under nobody’s control but I also have to
cry out against a bumbling government that doesn’t respect the for the
people and by the people phrase and rather treats us as subjects.
That might work for you queen lovers across the pond:) but not so
much here. Something about a small skirmish back in 1776 or so.
I just get very nervous when the government asks for anything,
especially to circumvent security whether it’s good security or not.
As always though, well presented and thank you for the thought provoker.
I like both sides on this. I’m encouraged so many support protection
of the 4th amendment but I also welcome the chance to discuss with
someone who feels the opposite.
Thank you
On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com
<mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote:
OK, so I think it’s safe to come out of the woodwork and say what I
think, even if it rocks the boat a bit and ruins a good love-in.
I should qualify first by saying that I’m not American and therefore
don’t enjoy the benefits of whatever “Precedent” is set by this case.
Nor do I believe that the U.S. sovereignty is indicative of any real
trend; at best it is a matter for western “Democracies”, and I
daresay you can guess how I feel about those. I don’t even believe
the U.S. is safe, given what we now know is possible, following the
revelation of the specifics.
This article, by a Canadian, captures my feelings very well:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/17/why_tim_cook_is_wrong_a_privacy_advocates_view/
In summary, I agree with the judge. I believe this was a PR campaign
intended to attract public support for Apple’s business practices,
regardless of Cook’s genuine ethical alignment on the issue. I
believe Apple would have acceded to the demands, had they been filed
under seal, as Apple had initially requested, and that Apple’s plea
was necessary as a response to the FBI’s refusal. I think this
firmware hack qualifies as legal assistance—particularly horrible
legal assistance, but assistance nevertheless, made more than
possible by the ineffectual security of these devices—and that the
case for proper security far exceeds any question of legal precedent,
particularly when the search was legitimate and would otherwise have
been authorised without Apple’s assistance. Clearly, the fact that
the judiciary can ask for the data is the vulnerability here, and not
that they can compel a manufacturer to exploit a weakness in their
products.
Therefore, the only defence is cryptography; anything less is mere
security by obscurity. We must have cryptography that works, is
provable and is verifiable. The iPhone does not provide this: Apple
maintains the key for the software upgrade process, and that process
exposes the weakness of the cryptography now in use to any person in
possession of it, including but not limited to the U.S. judiciary
courtesy of Apple itself. Between Apple’s hubris and the need for
user convenience, Apple is using the court to defend the
indefensible, and are fighting entirely the wrong fight. We need
cryptography, under our control, and without the threat of trivial
circumvention. Until this changes, Apple’s appeal to the court and
the public is naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
So Apple should accede to the FBI, as ordered. It’s the best thing
that privacy advocates could hope for. Next time, Apple will have
got it right, and their responses to requests for legal assistance
will be much shorter.
There! Don’t you feel much better now? :)
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