Sorrylist but I think I missed something here, So are you saying that the USA's FBI deleted the iCloud backup for the terrorists?
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2016 9:06 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search Yep, it later emerged that the FBI, through malice or incompetence, reset the account password and thus prevented those all-important (but incomplete) iCloud backups from occurring. (Notice that iCloud backups are another way in, which is something many customers aren’t aware of.) And I don’t blame you one bit for distrusting the FBI. This is the government that gave birth to “National Security Letters”. The fact that these clowns are pushing for even more power, even though it would be limited to after-the-fact exams, probably says that they aren’t finished grasping, and not by a long shot. Certainly off-worlders can forget any legal protections that you might get as a result of all this, particularly while passing through your delightful TSL checkpoints. I can just imagine it, being asked for my phone so they can take an image for later cryptanalysis, because I “Look foreign". Ugh. But, alas, we’re still in the precarious situation that even if the court’s decision is somehow overturned, we now know something rather uncomfortable about iOS security. Apple just painted a great big “Hack me!” sign on its gigantic half-eaten Apple logo. I side with Apple insofar as I believe we’re entitled to security, but there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of being able to trust the technology while it’s in such close proximity to the powers that be(TM), much less all the h4x3rz who will be trying their damned best to obtain the golden keys and make life miserable for the 99%. And don’t forget that some of these actors will be well-funded, and under the control of other, less well-adjusted governments. Ironic, given the message Apple is sending about the importance of security. If they know they’re a weak link, they’re not exactly eager to tell the world. :) -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
