No big problems with El Capitan here. Restart voice over occasionally. Normal vo comands in Safari. Have not learned hot spot. vo-i is often used in Safari. Sometimes i get busy in apps and Safari, but not often. Late 2012 iMac.
Its easy to use Time Machine backup. At least with Time Capsule backup. Make an El Capitan backup after clean install and tweaking voice over and apps before you get creative so you have one backup to clean the table. Take care > 7. apr. 2016 kl. 19.51 skrev E.T. <[email protected]>: > > No more dumb than the rest of us. Or is that no less dumb? I dunno. Heh. > > Know anything about running diagnostics? I think I will shoot an email to > Apple. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > [email protected] > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 4/7/2016 10:41 AM, Scott wrote: >> Interesting, I haven’t run in to these but this is probably do to hardware >> differences and I’m to dumb to know it’s not working correctly. lol >> >> Either is possible. >>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 1:36 PM, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Scott, >>> I have posted a time or two about these things. This is why I did a clean >>> install, in the hopes of correcting many issues. I do not hate El Cap, I >>> hate the aggravations. (smiles) >>> >>> The VO issues made setting up the clean install extremely painful at >>> times. >>> >>> I looked into running diagnostics to test my hardware but for this model >>> I have, it must use online diagnostics which I could not manage. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> [email protected] >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 4/7/2016 10:25 AM, Scott wrote: >>>> I didn’t read about your specific bluetooth or voice issues but personally >>>> I find El Capitan pretty stable and good although I do run the public >>>> betas. Right now though I’m on 10.11.4 like everyone else and not hating >>>> it. But that’s me. Others may have specific gripes that just aren’t in >>>> my usage model. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 1:03 PM, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't think anyone is asking for the perfect OS, but asking for >>>>> others' perspectives. >>>>> >>>>> "Its not that bad" is purely subjective. Its that bad if you must rely >>>>> on hearing accurate feedback via Voiceover. This is not annoying, its >>>>> beyond that. >>>>> >>>>> Now if you have solutions to the speech and Bluetooth issues I brought >>>>> up, then it might really be "Its not that bad". >>>>> >>>>> Just remember, we each have different setups and needs and wants and >>>>> experiences. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>> >>>>> On 4/7/2016 9:37 AM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>>>> Really, honestly, it's not that bad. If you want a system without bugs, >>>>>> build it yourself because it just does not exist. I think you'll find it >>>>>> difficult to produce. Sighted people have bugs too. It's not just us. In >>>>>> my opinion, upgrade and deal with what comes. It's the only way the bugs >>>>>> will possibly get squashed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:33, Sadam Ahmed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh my goodness, what a mess. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Think I'll stay put with my current workflow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/8/2016 1:27 AM, E.T. wrote: >>>>>>>> Forgot this. When bringing up the app store, most times focus is lost >>>>>>>> and command tab to another app then back fixes it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>>>> in the past. 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