Ericson is a big player as are a lot of the carriers and there are some major Chinese providers of equipment now that I believe are involved. ALU of course is another.
>From what I’ve read the proposals are a mix of highly dense micro cells in >high population areas and more widely carrying services like LTE for the more >distant coverage. There’s also work with LTE in non licensed space like 2.4 >and 5 GHZ where it interoperates with WiFi. So honestly, 5G will probably be ratified just before 6G starts rolling out.:) As to Mike’s comments, absolutely correct but for anyone who wants to do more research here’s a little bit of a technical wrapper. The US carriers called HSPA+ 4G and some carriers like T-Mobile have extended HSPA+ to it’s maximums of 42 megabits or so but the rest of the world as Mike correctly said calls this at best 3.5 G and at worse, seriously weak sauce.:) LTE is true 4G and recently I’ve read of live broadcasts T-Mobile have done of gigabit over LTE. Like physical phone lines it’s possible to bond LTE carriers and get more throughput to the network over multiple channels. > On Apr 13, 2016, at 4:42 AM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: > > And Scott, > > Do you have any idea when that will be? > > I would have thought Nokia would have had a hand in it's dev but they don't > really exist anymore in the mobile world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott > Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2016 3:03 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Unlocked Phones > > that’s until 5G is ratified right? > > :) > >> On Apr 12, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That's good to know, I think eventually the CDMA networks will be phased out >> and it will all be GSM lte which is a good thing since that's what the rest >> of the world is using. >> Original message: >>> Mike, this was true last century.:) Actually a little more recent >>> than that but is no longer the case, sort of.:) >> >>> First, yes, you can most definitely buy an unlocked iPhone from Apple >>> directly for example and slap a Verizon SIM in the phone and join the >>> network no problem. Is this officially supported, not exactly but Verizon >>> runs a pretty open network so phones should join and auto provision >>> including LTE. This is actually the part of the VZ network I worked on. >>> The LTE channel now supports voice so your calls route over the data >>> channel and use GSM just like the rest of the world now.:) Verizon gives >>> you some other interesting features like video over the voice channel and >>> of course now that it’s all GSM / LTE you can browse and talk on the same >>> device at the same time. >>> Sprint it’s been my experience could accept other phones but locks >>> their network to the phones they sell. I have been told though I believe >>> on this list and as well on the eyes free list that you can now insert a >>> Sprint SIM in to an unlocked phone and it ill join their network. I don’t >>> know about their frequency usage other than they are doing a carrier >>> aggregated thing similar to T-Mobile across more than one band. One of the >>> good things about the 6S is it has the same radio chip across the product >>> line so you get a wide amount of support in one handset. It’s a true world >>> phone. >> >>> Hope that helps. >> >> >> >>>> On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> With unlocked iphones, you can definitely choose at&t or t-mobile, with >>>> verizon and sprint it's a bit more interesting, unless this has changed, >>>> you need to have the model of iphone designed for these two carriers. >>>>> On Apr 11, 2016, at 5:52 PM, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> Scott G, you probably can answer this easily. I am on a family plan now >>>>> but may need to go on my own. If I buy an unlocked iPhone (likely the 6s) >>>>> from any source, any capacity, can I choose any plan from any carrier >>>>> (likely Verizon)? Reason I ask is I just looked at their site and did not >>>>> see any 6s models, just the plus. >> >>>>> I should probably go to a local store and at least look at the different >>>>> models and compare sizes. Could ask about plans too while there. >> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. 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