thanks for that info.  That clears it up for me.

On Nov 29, 2009, at 6:03 AM, David McLean wrote:

> Most monitors require a vga connection thus the need for an adapter.  This 
> isn't the same as the adapter that's been said to fix the running without a 
> monitor problem.
> On Nov 28, 2009, at 10:03 PM, carlene knight wrote:
> 
>> I could be wrong and totally making an idiot of myself, but if you get a 
>> monitor you won't need the adapter would you?  It seems as though people are 
>> just getting regular monitors for their minis.
>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> I did indeed receive your message, but it seemed to indicate that I would 
>>> have to wire the adapter myself.  I don't think I could do this.  Trouble 
>>> with getting a monitor is that none of the ones I've seen have the correct 
>>> end that would fit into the adapter that came with my Mac Mini.  I'll keep 
>>> looking.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: carlene knight
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem
>>> 
>>> Did you get the message I sent you?  My husband called tech support for you 
>>> regarding a dummy adapter.  I don't know if it is the one you have.  You 
>>> could get a very small used monitor for  about $50 that wouldn't take up 
>>> much room, but would fix this issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 2:44 PM, David McLean wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Maybe if we keep hammering them they'll get it eventually!!!
>>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That adapter simply does not work! Please do not advise individuals that 
>>>>> it does, because it is not correct.  When I attached it to my Mac Mini, 
>>>>> the machine refused to even boot! We need to quash this adapter thing 
>>>>> now!  I wasted money on the adapter based upon the recommendations of 
>>>>> well-meaning individuals, but enough already.  It doesn't work.
>>>>>  
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Chris Blouch
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:24 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem
>>>>> 
>>>>> Correct. You want the whatever your computer has to video adapter. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9319G/A
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are different flavors depending on what the port is on the back of 
>>>>> your computer. The one noted above is the mini-dvi to video but some 
>>>>> computers might have the micro-DVI which is
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB202G/A
>>>>> 
>>>>> CB
>>>>> 
>>>>> David McLean wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is the one I ordered as recommended on this list.  If it  isn't 
>>>>>> correct I'd sure appreciate it someone can finally clarify exactly which 
>>>>>> one it is that does work!
>>>>>> Product Number   Unit Price      Qty     Subtotal
>>>>>> <Mail Attachment.gif>
>>>>>> VID ADPT MINI-DVI TO VIDEO ADAPTER-GEN   M9319G/A        $19.00
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven't seen it stated clearly in this thread. Was the adaptor 
>>>>>>> purchased the Mac to NTSC adaptor? That's the only one that works. The 
>>>>>>> NTSC adaptor tells the Mac that there is a monitor attached even if 
>>>>>>> there isn't one. The DVI adaptor is not the right one. That one still 
>>>>>>> passes through the monitor detect signaling so it just moves the 
>>>>>>> problem further down the chain of connections. For those not familiar, 
>>>>>>> without a monitor connected the Mac tries to detect what's hooked up. 
>>>>>>> This detection apparently hangs the machine, makes it run horribly slow 
>>>>>>> or other bad behaviors if there isn't a monitor hooked up. If you hook 
>>>>>>> up an NTSC adaptor the detect runs as though a screen is hooked up and 
>>>>>>> then everything works.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris G wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I agree, if I would've known the frustration my Mac mini would cause me
>>>>>>>> I would've bought an iMac.  Sometimes it doesn't pay to try and save a
>>>>>>>> little money.
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:05:32 -0600
>>>>>>>> "Rich Ring" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>> I guess that's what I'll do.  Wish I had never wasted my money on 
>>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>>> computer, I should have held out and bought a Mac Book, but who knewA?
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "David McLean" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:58 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: -- Mac Mini problem
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well I had exactly the same problem last week.
>>>>>>>>> My only recommendation is to buy a cheap monitor just for the mini 
>>>>>>>>> which is 
>>>>>>>>> what I did.
>>>>>>>>> Of course you can also do what I did and buy yourself an early 
>>>>>>>>> Christmas 
>>>>>>>>> present (an imac).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>>>>>> I have finally gotten around to purchasing the mini to dvi adapter 
>>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> folks told me would solve the problems I am having with my Mac 
>>>>>>>>>> Mini's poor
>>>>>>>>>> performance on the web, and its inability to play DVDS.  I have been 
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> busy because of a change in my job description, so I've kind of put 
>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>>>>> on hold.  However, life is calming down and I decided to get down to 
>>>>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the mac.  Imagine my frustration when, I received the adapter today,
>>>>>>>>>> connected it to the back of my Mac, started the machine, and I have 
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> speech.  If I start the machine without this adapter connected, VO 
>>>>>>>>>> comes 
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> as expected, and if I subsequently plug in the adapter all is still 
>>>>>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>>>>> but Safari is still just as slow as it was before.  I'm wondering 
>>>>>>>>>> why the
>>>>>>>>>> system doesn't seem to come up if the adapter is plugged in.  If  
>>>>>>>>>> any of 
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> have an idea what could be causing this and, better yet, if any of 
>>>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> a solution, I will be incredibly grateful.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jess Smith" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:09 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: A question about streaming audio in vlc media player
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Whenever I stream audio in Vlc through an m3u playlist, the player 
>>>>>>>>>> skips
>>>>>>>>>> ahead to the next track in the playlist before the current one 
>>>>>>>>>> finishes
>>>>>>>>>> playing. What's going on here, and how can I fix this?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jes.
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