Do you actually find AD tolerable?  I hate it!  If I wanted someone talking 
over my movie I’d go to a public movie theater.  Other than IMAX I can get a 
pretty spiffy theater experience in my house with out the crying babies, sticky 
floors or over priced snacks.  IMAX is another matter.  I love going to IMAX 
theaters and listening to a multimillion dollar hand made custom audio system.  
If someone was yammering over my Independence Day I’d have to smack them.  I 
find the AD stuff totally distracting and it pulls me straight out of the film. 
 TO each their own though.  I’m glad there’s a switch so we who don’t want it 
can skip it and folks who do can enable it.  Maybe it’s the quality of the AD 
voice as well, it always sounds to me like SiRi or Google are announcing the 
film.  
 

On 6/28/16, 7:03 AM, "Saqib Hussain" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf 
of saqib1...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi. Is Audio Description available on HBO and Hulu? I personally wouldn’t 
subscribe to them if it wasn’t!  Here in the UK AD is widely available across 
the Freeview platform and we are sort of spoilt because we just expect it to be 
available with allot of our programs. 
> On 27 Jun 2016, at 23:05, Ben J. Bloomgren <ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Being that this is Mac Visionaries, I'll throw it back to Apple. Ricardo, you 
> mentioned HBO. I have HBO Now, and I just got Amazon Prime again. I don't 
> know how extensive HBO Now is, because my parents subscribe to HBO via our 
> cable provider, but the HBO Now app works wonderfully on the Apple TV 4. I 
> haven't looked at Hulu, but it looks pretty good.
> 
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> On 6/27/2016 8:24, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I think the death of cable as we known it all these years has definitely 
>> started. But its going to be a long, agonizing death. lol. Netflix, Amazon, 
>> Hulu, and possibly Apple in the very near future will be speeding up this 
>> death though. I’m going to go ahead and add HBO to that mix as well, now 
>> that it is possible to purchase a stand alone subscription to their network. 
>> Its all about that original content, and how we all consume 
>> media/entertainment/news now. Just 10 years ago, we basically sat around, 
>> and waited for network execs, newspaper editors, and program directors at 
>> radio stations to tell us what was news worthy, a great TV show, and the 
>> next hot song for the summer. Terrestrial radio? Totally irrelevant. They 
>> basically just play what is getting the most hits on youtube, and look at 
>> what is topping the iTunes charts to create their playlists. They don’t 
>> discover/break new music anymore. Newspapers? Dead as dead can be. With 
>> twitter, facebook, blogs, and google to hold that all together, they are 
>> pretty much relegated as social media aggregators. I think this is a very 
>> good thing. Too few telling us a narrow version of world and current events 
>> was never a great thing.
>> 
>> Cable is just the last domino to fall. And all though it started with TV, 
>> look for broadband to be the real tipping factor. You mentioned you keeping 
>> your broadband cable connection because its the best around.  Now, in 3 to 5 
>> years when 5G is a reality for most of us in the U.S. and Europe, and VZ, 
>> T-mobile, or At&T start offering $30 a month wireless broadband packages for 
>> the home, with real world speeds approaching 100mb down/up? Oh man! In Big 
>> cities Like NYC Detroit, Dallas, this won’t have a huge impact. But for 
>> those who live in rural, out of the way places? Where fiber ends 2 miles out 
>> side your town, and your using DSL in 2016, and paying $50 a month for the 
>> dubious privilege? Cable is in trouble. People are going to start doing the 
>> math and saying, wait. So I can get a little box, plug it in to my outlet, 
>> and get fast internet? No person drilling holes in my walls, and staying on 
>> hold waiting for an excuse about a downed line 25 miles away affecting my 
>> service? And for less too? Sign me up. And, When I go to the in-laws, I can 
>> just bring my little box with me? Like my Apple TV, or chrome cast?
>> 
>> I think the cable people just lack the foresight. Being the King of the hill 
>> for 30 years will do that though.
>>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Scott,
>>> 
>>> I felt exactly like you do.  My husband had been wanting to cut the chord 
>>> for a long time, and I was the one dragging my feet.  But now that we've 
>>> done it, I don't miss it much at all.  There are some shows I miss like 
>>> Diners and Dives and Restaurant Impossible, but that's about it.  And we've 
>>> discovered new shows that we like that we probably would never have 
>>> discovered if we'd just been able to put the Food Network on and let it run 
>>> all night. :)
>>> 
>>> It is different, though.  If you want to watch TV, you can't just pick up 
>>> the remote and surf around.  Now, we decide what we want to watch and then 
>>> access it.  You can surf on Netflix, and probably other sources like Hulu 
>>> as well, but you surf through lists of shows, not channels.  It's funny, my 
>>> husband will occasionally still ask, "What's on TV tonight?" and I have to 
>>> remind him, it's whatever we decide to put on. :)  Neither my husband nor I 
>>> ever got our news from television, so that wasn't an issue for us.
>>> 
>>> Our cost savings is probably around $80 per month, and we had a basic cable 
>>> package.  Our internet is still cable, and they offer the best service in 
>>> our area, so it's likely to stay that way for a while.  I know other people 
>>> who save less, because they took the same money they were spending on 
>>> cable, and just put it into subscriptions, Hulu, etc.  Whichever way you 
>>> go, I have to say that not only is it nice to be saving that money, it's 
>>> also just nice not to be paying for all that really bad TV--in my opinion, 
>>> most of what your cable gets you is a load of ****.
>>> 
>>> So, I'm glad we did it.  My suggestion would be to keep track of what shows 
>>> you get from cable that you actually value.  Then figure out whether those 
>>> same shows are available through another mechanism--don't rule out 
>>> purchasing them if you really like them.  I'm a huge Big Bang Theory fan 
>>> for example.  That isn't available on Netflix, so I just purchased my 
>>> favorite seasons on iTunes.  My guess is that you won't have too much that 
>>> you get from your cable company that you couldn't get more cheaply 
>>> elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> Good luck, and let us know if you do decide to cut the chord.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donna, I’ve been thinking of doing the same thing but can’t quite get my 
>>>> head around not having channels to turn to.  I’m still a product of the 
>>>> old television way of doing things.  How about news or other live 
>>>> broadcasting?  Do you miss it?  Do you still get it in other ways?
>>>>    How about the cost savings, are they as significant as people claim?  
>>>> Do you miss the older style of TV access or are things going well.  Maybe 
>>>> if nobody objects you could talk a little more about your cord cutting 
>>>> experience?  Are you still receiving Internet over the cable or are you 
>>>> all wireless or some other access method?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/26/16, 8:11 PM, "Donna Goodin" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on 
>>>> behalf of doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Brandon,
>>>> 
>>>> My husband and I ditched our cable last fall.  We now watch either 
>>>> Netflix, or content that we own.  Netflix works great, both with our Apple 
>>>> TV and on my iPhone.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>>>>> <thepianist2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am thinking of canceling cable, because we just don’t use it much.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We just got Hulu, and that is working awesome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I want to know is, does Netflix work well, either on the computer or 
>>>>> on the iPhone?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Brandon
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