Streaming is nice, but call me old-fashioned. I still like to have stuff 
actually on the phone. I also like to have stuff actually on the computer. 
Cloud is nice. Local storage is still what I like better.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> I personally could care less what the memory size is.  All my content is 
> streamed so I don’t use much of it other than for application memory.  
> Whether it’s 16, 32, or 256 GB it’s all the same.  The only thing I find is 
> the higher memory units have a better resale value.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. I too would like to be able to plug my eye device into a PC or Mac and 
>> access that like I could  A thumb drive. I would also like a storage slot, 
>> so that damned 16 GB model they sell wouldn't be so ridiculously limited. 
>> Yes, I know they are supposedly upping it to 32, big deal. On the other 
>> hand, my android device is a nexus, because it gets timely updates, just 
>> like apples things do. No storage card there either. Nothing is perfect.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The article I read must' have been gravely misinformed.
>>> I would just like to download files from Safari to my iPhone such as mp3 
>>> files.
>>> viewing it as a harddrive like the Android phones.
>>>> On 2 Sep. 2016, at 1:26 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone jack. They took 
>>>> away the storage card slot. And they brought it back, because people 
>>>> complain. They took away the user replaceable battery. They did not bring 
>>>> that back, despite complaint. They do what they want. There is no 
>>>> immediately efficient replacement for that storage card slot. Apple has 
>>>> never had one. People have complained forever about the fact that it is 
>>>> harder to access the whole file system on Apple devices. As Apple change 
>>>> that? No they have not.
>>>> 
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There will definitely be a backlash, Samsung tried this and it was 
>>>>> reversed.
>>>>> The reason Apple is doing this is simple, money.
>>>>>> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 6:28 pm, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a 
>>>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope 
>>>>>> the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did 
>>>>>> this and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New 
>>>>>> Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably 
>>>>>> livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want 
>>>>>> this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most 
>>>>>> people of upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone 
>>>>>> jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out.
>>>>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, 
>>>>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started 
>>>>>> blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm 
>>>>>> at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to 
>>>>>> think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of 
>>>>>> the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess 
>>>>>> I would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can 
>>>>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, 
>>>>>> even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a 
>>>>>> stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really 
>>>>>> upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves 
>>>>>> these days, and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn 
>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid 
>>>>>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost 
>>>>>> all the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for 
>>>>>> someone who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were 
>>>>>> to improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and 
>>>>>> it's difficult to get through an entire business day of use without the 
>>>>>> need to charge something.
>>>>>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't 
>>>>>> then charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, 
>>>>>> selfish, stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This 
>>>>>> company, which parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of 
>>>>>> badge of honour, appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its 
>>>>>> accessibility market.
>>>>>> Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And 
>>>>>> they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in 
>>>>>> time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive 
>>>>>> carefully managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on 
>>>>>> its iDevices. It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even offer 
>>>>>> on its own personal computers, meaning you won't be able to use the 
>>>>>> Lightning-based Ear Pods even with a Mac. That's two sets of headphones 
>>>>>> you're going to have to carry around with you, unless you don't mind 
>>>>>> having an adapter jutting out of the port you want to charge your phone 
>>>>>> with. Absolutely absurd.
>>>>>> I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking 
>>>>>> Apple over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has 
>>>>>> given them a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more 
>>>>>> viable for daily use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm 
>>>>>> really going to be stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then 
>>>>>> because there is certainly going to be a backlash.
>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>>> http://Mosen.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Mary,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an 
>>>>>>> active role in what the future brings.  We, as consumers, have 
>>>>>>> alternatives and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that 
>>>>>>> companies pay attention.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically 
>>>>>>> ridiculous decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, 
>>>>>>> I'm not so certain that just because it decides something it better 
>>>>>>> will make it so.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it 
>>>>>>> would change the lives of the world.  Well, as far as I can tell, my 
>>>>>>> world hasn't changed one bit either with or without it.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to 
>>>>>>> follow Apple's lead in the coming future.  As one of the executives of 
>>>>>>> Samsung recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when 
>>>>>>> it follows." 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see.  Fortunately 
>>>>>>> for me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest 
>>>>>>> device just because it is the latest.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on 
>>>>>>> the iPhone seven
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the 
>>>>>>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the 
>>>>>>> storage card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. 
>>>>>>> Also, if the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible 
>>>>>>> earbuds with the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible 
>>>>>>> for people to use other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth 
>>>>>>> these days, I suspect that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from 
>>>>>>> iPhones forever. Other device makers are already moving in this 
>>>>>>> direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the first 
>>>>>>> ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts 
>>>>>>>> the new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the 
>>>>>>>> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory 
>>>>>>>> to its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, 
>>>>>>>> effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept 
>>>>>>>> those features.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for 
>>>>>>>> iOS devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC 
>>>>>>>> users upon attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went 
>>>>>>>> crazy and vowed to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people 
>>>>>>>> to use iTunes in order to manage photos.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this 
>>>>>>>> feature in the subsequent release of iTunes.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something 
>>>>>>>> tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM
>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on 
>>>>>>>> the iPhone seven
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack 
>>>>>>>> first appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an 
>>>>>>>> adapter so potential customers would be able to use their existing 
>>>>>>>> earphones with the iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me 
>>>>>>>> in the least.
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