It’s to bad Chris is so out to lunch, I know the solution to this one but I 
won’t help him.  Tim, if you want to know or anyone else write me off list.
 

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm.  Interesting indeed.  I'll have to do some testing as well. I'll get 
> back to you in a bit.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 15:12, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yes it is.  Affirmative.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Tim Kilburn <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kind a weird problem with ICloud contacts
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> On your Mac, in the Contacts app, under Preferences, General, way down near 
>> the bottom, is iCloud set as the default for new contacts?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 15:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, this is a little bit perplexing.
>>  
>> I have ICloud set up on all of my iOS devices, all of which are running iOS 
>> 10.  All of them have contact syncing enabled.  Further, I have contact 
>> syncing enabled on all of my macs.  All of them are on the exact same wifi 
>> network, and all of them are signed into the exact same ICloud account.
>>  
>> On my mac, when I open the contacts app, I then hit command+N to add a new 
>> contact.  In Sierra, at least, I'm told that the currwent card is in "All 
>> ICloud," which makes complete sense.  On a sidenote entirely, did Voiceover 
>> used to say that in El Capitan? I don't remember it doing so.  Anyway, 
>> getting back to the problem, I get the tontact's info filled out, stop 
>> interacting with the scroll area, hit VO+Space on the Add button, which then 
>> turns to an Edit button.  I then quit Contacts with Command+Q.
>>  
>> Now, If I go over to my iPad, or my iPhone, or one of my other macs, and I 
>> look in contacts, I don't see the contact showing up.
>>  
>> I wondered if somehow I was putting the contacts only locally on the mac, 
>> not in ICloud, but that isn't the case.  Looking on the mac side, it appears 
>> that the contact is indeed going into All ICloud.  So, what in the blessid 
>> world is going on here!  I really don't get this.  Before anyone says, and, 
>> you're absolutely sure you're signed in and syncing contacts on all 
>> devices... yes.  I am.  Trust me.  I looked.  Where did you look.  Well, on 
>> iOS, I went settings>ICloud.  Under there, I see Contacts: On.  and it shows 
>> my Apple ID on that screen correctly.  Have I rebooted the devices?  Yes, I 
>> have.  Many times.  How about the mac?  Yes.  Again, many times.  On the 
>> mac, I'm going to system prefs, ICloud, then am looking in the services 
>> table, and contacts is definitely checked.  Yes, I tried on all devices 
>> turning contacts off and back on to refresh.  Upon turning contacts back on, 
>> I was asked what to do with existing contacts, and I said merge.
>>  
>> I'm confident that the contacts are not showing up on iOS, as Siri can't 
>> find them, and when I look manually in the Contacts app, I move the table 
>> index to the correct letter, then flick down through the contact list, and 
>> they are not showing up.
>>  
>> I even not only turned contacts off and back on to refresh things, I even 
>> signed completely out of ICloud, and then back in on all devices.  No good.  
>> So yeah... What on earth!
>>  
>> Chris.
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