Bloteware? Um, no offense, but I've not seen any bloteware on the mac with Sierra or the like. Care to elaborate?
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No, it is the apple gravy train at work with built in obsolescence as a
marketing approach.

 Pushing bloatware out each year is no excuse and no favor for the end
user.

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016, Alex Hall wrote:

You're not considering the resource needs of the OS itself. New operating systems have animations, background tasks, throughput needs, and other requirements that must be met or the OS will run slowly and poorly. Apple has to decide where those problems become so great that the OS would not be usable. Yes, they can disable certain parts, like Airdrop on non-BT4.x machines, but eventually they'd be disabling more than they'd leave.

It's like iPhones. When the 4 and 4s were getting upgrades, you'd hear the same thing every year. People would scream about how their phone didn't get the latest OS, and how terrible is it that Apple is abandoning their customers, and on and on. (I'm not accusing you of saying that.) Then, if Apple gave old phones an upgrade the next year, people would complain about the stuttering animations, the missing features, the slow response times, and so on. Apple can either cut off old machines and get hammered about money-grubbing and not being responsible for their customers, or they can support old machines and get hammered about poor performance and not supporting new features.
On Sep 28, 2016, at 06:31, Martin Brown <mbrown.bro...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have tried to download Sierra using my 2009 Mac Mini, but was informed
that my device was not compatible. I am somewhat surprised at this because
my Mini has 4GB of ram and a 500GB hard drive.

I say somewhat surprised, but not totally. Perhaps Apple has applied the 7
year rule. Put simply the powers that be feel it is time for me to join
Apple's gravy train and spend some cash in their direction. Not a chance Mr
Cook. I shall run this little baby up to, and beyond, the point where my
smoke alarms start going off.

I often hear the argument that Apple only use the very best components in
their devices. Very good, but what is the point if the device has to go on
the scrap heap half a century before the components might even consider
giving up the ghost. Not a lot in my humble opinion. So much for
conservation and getting the best out of limited resources.
All the best from the last of the Neanderthals somewhere in the UK.



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