I’m kind of thinking that I'll go the 2012 mac book pro and up the ram and hd 
to an ssd and just put up with the 2.5 ghz processor,

Oh and the weight gain in the mbp 2012.

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2016 7:37 AM
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Subject: Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.  

I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give more 
memory options to the laptops.

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I am 
> putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
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> On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a 
>> massive difference.
>> 
>> On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
>> The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still 
>> upgradable via a small door on the back.
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply 
>>> to all Mac models?
>>> 
>>>  I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not 
>>> know I could go higher.
>>> 
>>>  At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up 
>>>> higher as well.
>>>> 
>>>> When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 
>>>> 32 GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. 
>>>>> I'm replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. 
>>>>> Janky performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth 
>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com><mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
>>>>>   user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
>>>>>   inch mac at this time.
>>>>>   > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott <portia.sc...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>
>>>>>   <mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
>>>>>   and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > Portia.
>>>>>   >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
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>>>>>   >> Hello everyone.
>>>>>   >>
>>>>>   >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
>>>>>   treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
>>>>>   configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
>>>>>   over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
>>>>>   I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
>>>>>   should suit me fine.
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