Kawal, he probably picked that behavior up in prison so you’ll have to give him 
some slack.

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'll just say, Chris it's not about winning anything, it's about treating 
> each other respectfully and a little professionalism.  We're all on this list 
> to get help, to learn and to swap ideas and a little light banter at times.  
> If you have nothing good to say just move on to the next topic or make your 
> points calmly and respectfully.
> 
> No more than that is required Sir.
>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 22:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken. I think you're misunderstanding the tone of my message, but I'm 
>> so freaking exhausted right now, I'm not in the mood on nor off list to 
>> argue, so therefore, I'm just gonna surrender and let you win this one.
>> ---
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Macvisionaries" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Activities
>> 
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> If you don't mind me saying so, you should not react to messages as i'm 
>> afraid to say that you reacting to messages, causes drama on the list.  I 
>> know you may not like reading what is said but I think it is better for you 
>> to take these issues off list and take it up with the person privately.  I'm 
>> just saying.  If you do feel that you have a problem, just privately forward 
>> your messages to Mark or Cara who will deal with things for you and hence 
>> there will be no drama on list.  I'm not attacking you but just saying that 
>> no one wants to read your messages which sound sulky and bad tempered and 
>> frustrated.  You might not like what I read but I am just saying, keep calm 
>> and do not get in to a rage as it solves nothing for you or for other 
>> members on this list.
>> 
>> If you are going to attack me, before you do so, take a deep breath, calm 
>> down and please do report me to Mark and I'm sure he will get in touch with 
>> me and then we can sort it out privately.  I'll copy Mark in to this anyway 
>> so you know he knows what I have said.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 21:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me 
>>> for this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who 
>>> cares. Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but are 
>>> you rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the 
>>> application? In the activities category of the VO Utility, after all is 
>>> set, it'll say, use activity for, and you have to actually pick the .app 
>>> file of the application, like, mail.app, to attach that particular activity 
>>> to.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, the activity won't do anything. It'll just kind a be there 
>>> attached to null.
>>> ---
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Macvisionaries" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Activities
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my 
>>> girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time 
>>> for Christmas and try to get back to you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
>>>> doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my 
>>>> mail to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as 
>>>> Alex is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is 
>>>> a brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are using. 
>>>> Appreciate it.
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Click add.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
>>>>> triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then 
>>>>> click set next to that, such as voices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
>>>>> application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may 
>>>>> be what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. So 
>>>>> went back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the 
>>>>>> steps you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
>>>>>>> shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
>>>>>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please 
>>>>>>>> write out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity 
>>>>>>>> set for a program. Would love to see if there is something I am 
>>>>>>>> missing as Apple cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not 
>>>>>>>> work for me. I just deleted all my activities and started new. Created 
>>>>>>>> an activity for mail which used the Samantha voice and turned QuickNav 
>>>>>>>> off and it still does not work. When I pull mail up using my keyboard 
>>>>>>>> shortcut Alex is still reading my mail and QuickNav is still turned 
>>>>>>>> on. Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
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