Ah, you’re in good hands then, I’m sure that’s not the problem if you and he 
set it up from a clean install.  Rule that one out then.

Thanks

> On Oct 31, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I did a clean install of the latest operating system with help from 
> Sabahattin.  He normally guides me through the cleaning of the drive and then 
> I install the Operating system myself once the OS installer is on my rugged 
> USB stick which I acquired from Apple a few years ago.  I don't know how to 
> spell the name so I don't want to do it here!
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 31 Oct 2016, at 21:17, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I have seen this happen with sites and safari when a clean install of the os 
>> is required.
>> 
>> Not sure if it’s a library problem or what the route cause is but this is 
>> how I resolved the page crash issue.  I’ve also seen this in webkit which is 
>> basically beta versions of safari or rather the browser safari is derived 
>> from.
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Each time I tried to access mail, the site would close and I'd have to 
>>> report that to Apple as diagnostic problem.
>>>> On 31 Oct 2016, at 18:17, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> After hearing all the chatter here about iCloud, I decided to take a boo 
>>>> around the site.  Overall, it's not a particularly friendly site for us, 
>>>> but it is actually usable.  I was able to login, access Settings, Mail, 
>>>> rules and most things that folks were concerned about.  A couple of things 
>>>> to note:
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Once you pick an app, you usually need to back out of iCloud then 
>>>> re-interact in order for the new content to be displayed.  That is, for 
>>>> example, you press on the Mail button, then stop interacting however many 
>>>> times is needed to be out of the Web Content, then re-interact with the 
>>>> Web Content and you should be able to navigate the page.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.  One app did give me grief, but when I pressed cmd-r to refresh the 
>>>> page, it was very usable once again.
>>>> 
>>>> No, this isn't the best design, but it certainly wasn't impossible to 
>>>> navigate with VO.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 11:00, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Would that be something for the accessibility team to take care about?
>>>> Just asking?
>>>> /A
>>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 18:58, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such a big game about 
>>>>> accessibility have such a poorly designed main site. There is now no way 
>>>>> whats so ever to use universal mail rules. Or edit any of your existing 
>>>>> mail rules. Just awful. 
>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've never been impressed with iCloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alas, I can reproduce everything you're saying.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Fischler" 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 10:50 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok the old iCloud website was bad enough but this is ridiculous what 
>>>>>> they have done with it. Would love to hear if anyone can access mail on 
>>>>>> the iCloud site so they can create a mail rule. I used to be able to do 
>>>>>> this and the steps were a little weird but now there is no way to get to 
>>>>>> mail. I go to iCloud get signed in, go to settings then VO space on 
>>>>>> settings to switch app. I can get to mail and I VO space on it and it 
>>>>>> takes me back to the main screen of Find your devices. Please do let me 
>>>>>> know if anyone knows how to get to mail so I can setup a new mail rule. 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
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