Okay. Prove me wrong. Where are your facts? Otherwise, it's bullstuff.

PS: Feel free to challenge me to provide proof of anything I've said.
On 11/10/2016 12:17 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
And see you’ve just entirely discredited your position.  Typical lefty move 
when you have an indefensible position and you’re presented with facts which 
are confirmed you result to name calling.

I do not listen to Rush Limbaugh, he’s a blow hard just like Sean Hanity and 
the whole bunch.  In fact I get most of my news from outside the united states. 
 But it does prove your true colors and it proves my point that you live inside 
the bubble of the global climate change religion which is as irrational as any 
other faith based position that lacks support in hard measurable fact.  But go 
ahead and name call, I’m happy to give you suitable rope to hang yourself.


On Nov 10, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote:

None of what you say below is a proven fact. Yu've been listening to too much 
Rush Limbaugh. I don't actually care where you got this crap from, it's crap. 
If you want to say otherwise, provide some links. Otherwise, I call BS on 
everything you say.

*I* am not in any Al Gore bubble. That's bullstuff.





On 11/10/2016 11:25 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Well, let’s remember, the UN climate group did fudge their numbers which is a 
proven fact so that does sort of lead towards the hoax factor.  Let’s also 
remember when it’s been demonstrated that recent temperatures are cooling if 
anything the global warming crowd changed their phrase from global warming to 
climate change.  Let’s also note the sun has had an increase in output over the 
last century  that fluctuates but also correlates with temperature and weather 
changes recorded both on the planet and on other planets such as temperature 
changes recorded on Mars although we have a very narrow data set there so it’s 
hard to say that’s a trend with a lack of data.

The fact is the global warming crowd or climate change or what ever you call it 
now is in a bubble, an Al Gorr generated bubble generated specifically to put 
money in Mr. Gorr’s pocket with the carbon credits scheme.  There’s also a 
culture of firing scientists who contest the findings which happens in many 
established areas of research but especially here.  It’s a scam to put money in 
Gorr’s and Decrapio’s pockets among others not a real effort to reduce 
pollution.  If it was real then people would be researching real energy 
alternatives like Nuclear and wouldn’t cut funding for things like the national 
ignition project.  So yes, Global warming is a scam.  These were the same folks 
who used to cry nuclear winter and previously claimed an ice age was coming and 
change their positions through out history.  The sky is not falling and I for 
one am not going to support the enrichment of the Gorr family based on 
fabricated science that even the united nations was forced to admit to.

There are so many wholes in the theory starting with the lack of long term data 
and deliberate fudging of data to prove an imaginary point through to the lack 
of compensation for the heat reflectivity changes caused by the increase in use 
of concrete near temperature measuring stations which cause a small but 
measurable delta in the data which they refuse to correct for.




On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote:

My point was not that it was never reasonable to be skeptical about global 
warming. My point was that it was never sensible to assert that scientists were 
trying to pull off a hoax.  If you think it was ever reasonable to assert that 
global warming was a hoax, then you should not be allowed to vote at least 
until you get your head on straight.

PS: I am willing to debate global warming with you any time any place. The 
facts are on my side.






On 11/10/2016 10:35 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Who boy we should move this over to the off topic list because I could blow 
huge holes in your global warming position.  Scientists did infect fudge factor 
data and I can show you hard space weather data that indicates similar warming 
trends on other planets.;)

That doesn’t mean I think we should be pumping crap in to the air and sea but 
the global warming deal is just a scheme to enrich a few.  The next time 
Leonardo Decrapio tells me I need to use less energy while he’s flying around 
in his Gulfstream G5-50 burning more energy per hour than I do in my life I’ll 
smack him with a trout.

On Nov 10, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote:

The USA has a long, disgraceful history of preventing minorities from voting 
via poll tests. So I know making people prove they know *something* before they 
vote is not practical.  It would be nice though. If you ever thought global 
warming was a hoax, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. I don't mean if you ever 
hoped it wasn't true. I mean if you ever believed scientists were deliberately 
making it up, then you should never again be allowed to vote. Well, maybe that 
is a bit harsh. You should have to prove you have learned your lesson though.




On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
One thing  I appreciate about countries like Australia is that they
recognize that those who choose not to participate in the voting process
hurt the country as a whole.
So, they did and I believe still do, require you to vote or pay a fine.
The choice to be  willfully ignorant is often not something that a city,
county or country can afford.
I respect that many might not have enjoyed the menu options, but
choosing to skip the democratic process is especially damaging where,
like stateside, it is more  of an electoral college election than a
general public mandate anymore.
Speaking only for myself, it seems time to  give voters a clear
incentive to educate themselves about those issues.  fine want to stay
home enough to pay a fine for that right?
Kare


On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Todor Fassl wrote:

But why? Why should people who know nothing about the issues vote?
Just repeating your opinion that they should vote is no answer.

It's like saying you should get brain surgery even if you're not sure
you have something wrong with your brain. Just sign yourself up for
random medical treatments, who knows, some of them might even help.

Instead of picking someone at random, if you haven't studied the
issues, you should STAY HOME!


repeating that they should vote is NO answer.





On 11/08/2016 05:19 PM, Robin wrote:
I Disagree
Voting is a Right & EveryOne should Vote
No Matter What iff Eligible
At 02:26 PM 11/8/2016, you wrote:
I don't think people should vote just for the sake of voting. That's
how bad guys get elected -- ignorant voters put them in office. If
you
havent studied the issues, please stay home.
On 11/08/2016 05:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
For our friends in the US,
       Totally apolitical here and please please let’s keep it
that way.  Get out there and vote today, do your civic duty
regardless of your party / candidate / beliefs just get out and
have
your voice heard if you haven’t already.
       Uber is offering a $20 credit for a trip to your polling
place, Lyft has a similar deal with up to $45 in credits, and
Google
also has the means to arrange a ride for you and provide some
credits
to get to your closest polls.  the parties are offering rides and
volunteer services as well.
       Also, make sure you take advantage of the deals available
today to voters.  Keep that “I voted† sticker and Krispy >
Cream
will give you a free donut, McDonalds and Seven Eleven are giving
free coffee, and many small businesses are having election day
promotions that include discounts or out right freebies.
       Remember that many service men and women have fought and
died
for your right to vote so let’s not let them down and make
sure > >  we
take advantage of our most powerful expression of our freedom, our
right to vote.  Now get out there and be safe everyone.
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