ET, I hope you're right. :) Cheers, Donna > On Dec 15, 2016, at 3:52 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Isn't that a bit of a reach? What Apple probably did was they broke the > Voiceover ability to speak the percentage. We may not need to wait for the .3 > update to fix this. Just my .05 cents. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "Lord, Help me become the person > my dog thinks I am." --Dawn Ewing > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/15/2016 1:39 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> Hi Tim, >> >> I certainly wouldn't relish going back to Windows, but for me it would be a >> matter of principle. Having access to battery information is for me a >> non-negotiable component of portable computing, and if a company thinks that >> blind users should be OK living without that, I'm not OK with them. This is >> all the more true in the wake of that video that was shown at the last Apple >> event where they touted their commitment to accessibility. So, I wouldn't >> want to go back to Windows, but I would feel that this decision by Apple >> flies in the face of their own stated values, and leaves me with a computer >> I'm not comfortable trusting when i don't have access to AC. >> >> At any rate, hopefully this will be fixed soon, and so will be moot point. >> Cheers, >> Donna >>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I agree with Donna that it is a step backwards to have something visible to >>> the sighted user, but not present to the VO user. Scott, that's pleasing >>> if they're working on it in 10.12.3. All they really need to do is make >>> the indicator announce/display things exactly the same for when the machine >>> is using the power adaptor or the battery. It does announce things just >>> fine in 10.12.2 if you're plugged in, but it's absent when on battery power. >>> >>> I wouldn't go quite so far as to purchase a Windows laptop just because of >>> this, as there's far too many advantages to my Mac experience to go that >>> direction. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 13:45, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Actually strike that, it’s not quite but it looks like work is being done >>> in that area. >>> >>> Stay tuned it’s at least reporting the charging state but no percentage yet. >>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I just wanted to write to say that I have written to Apple accessibility >>>> re the battery issue, and I would encourage others to do the same. If >>>> there is an icon that sighted users can view, then there also needs to be >>>> an equivalent for us. I'm sorry, but the notion that anyone would rely on >>>> a laptop--which theoretically is intended for computing on the go--without >>>> providing them good access to battery information is ridiculous. Yes, I >>>> know. You can go into Activity Monitor. But that is a fairly time >>>> consuming process. And yes, you can ask Siri. But that's hardly >>>> convenient or appropriate if you're in the middle of a meeting, a class, >>>> etc. I had been planning to purchase one of the new MacBook Pros, but >>>> right now, I'm thinking I may follow Jonathan Mosen's lead and purchase a >>>> PC instead. >>>> >>>> To my thinking this is absolutely unacceptable. 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