Hi, guys, im definitely going to join that list, personally i am with Janina, i dont like many games, okay, i have topspeed somewhere, that is about it.
Sandi On 12/22/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Yes, me too! I don't play games with my computers, but this one tempts > me sorely. > > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> Where to get this flight sim for mac? >> I may not be good at it but would like to try it out. >> /A >> > 19 dec. 2016 kl. 20:15 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > Hi Joshua >> > I have used flightier on mac , for about 10 year, before i got a job >> > that required me to change to FSX, i have tried its your plane, it is >> > fairly cute, if you unlike me , like to sit and talk to your plane, in >> > my world it have nothing to do with flying, imagine this, you fly in >> > your j3, you can hear every little beat from the engine. and what is >> > even better, you control every little thing you have to do , yes it is >> > hard, but if it was easy, everyone would do it, right? >> > Janina, damn you, now you have me once again, wanting, needing an >> > android thing, so i can try it out. Whimper, new mac book pro, new key >> > tar, new iPad, and now also a new android thing , is it really that >> > amazing that a girl lives in a geek world 24.7? not if y’all ask me. >> > Bookshare with Espeak? i dare you reading Calendar girl with that one, >> > xd hides in dark long hair. >> > I only have the danish version, so i can’t do that, at least that, is >> > going to be my story anyways. >> > Best Sandi. >> > >> > On 12/19/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >> > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, your correction is accepted, Scott. I'm aware of NAT, and in fact >> >> have unroutable addresses asigned for my Fusion machines which I use >> >> internally when communicating only on the Airbook itself. >> >> >> >> However, I particularly dislike NAT, and don't care to go back into >> >> it. >> >> Locally, I'm now fully IPv6, and plan to keep it that way. And, yes, I >> >> do need my Fusion vm routable from the outside frequently enough. >> >> >> >> Setting up NAT just to avoid the extra address is, admittedly, a way >> >> around my predicament. But, I'd frankly rather not. The truth is that >> >> there are wifi interruptions enough, where communication hangs. To add >> >> yet another layer to that isn't anything I want to fuss with. >> >> >> >> On my Lisbon trip I stayed with tethering via my T-Mobile phone for >> >> just >> >> that reason. And, indeed, there were wifi outages during the day that >> >> others were frustrated by. I just smiled and kept going. >> >> >> >> What I saw in Sapporo in 2015, where NTT set a mesh with a WAP about >> >> every 30-40 feet or so, with native IPv6 was another matter. There was >> >> a >> >> deployment I used all week without issues--but that's the exception in >> >> my experience. >> >> >> >> Janina >> >> >> >> Scott Granados writes: >> >>> Hi Janina, not arguing your points at all but I wanted to make one >> >>> correction. You most certainly can consolidate your IP usage. If >> >>> you >> >>> spin up a VM and change the network adapter from bridged to NAT you >> >>> can >> >>> have the Mac receive one IP only and then have it provide an internal >> >>> network for your other virtual machines thus removing the need for >> >>> several >> >>> IP addresses. I’m aware of the problems with NAT, as I’m sure you are >> >>> in >> >>> great detail as well but I have found this to be a viable solution >> >>> especially when on WiFi networks that require advanced authentication >> >>> or >> >>> wired networks with 802.1x enabled. Another advantage is if you have >> >>> a >> >>> VPN running on the Mac side you can have access to all the various >> >>> connected resources on the virtual network with out having to >> >>> establish an >> >>> independent VPN session per VM thus removing the limitations of VPN >> >>> environments with login limits and other network access control >> >>> limitations. As a mother related note, you can also create internal >> >>> networks with no access at all. These are good for building virtual >> >>> network topologies. I have 12 different virtual routers that I spin >> >>> up >> >>> that each simulate a Juniper MX router. I bind these with shared >> >>> networks >> >>> between their adapters which then represent them selves as point to >> >>> point >> >>> ethernet links with in the routers themselves. So, for example, I >> >>> can >> >>> bind ge-0/0/0 on router 1 to ge-0/0/0 on router 2 using a shared /31 >> >>> address just like you would with real cables and routers. I can then >> >>> enable my protocols, set up my peering, enable MPLS, build VRFs and >> >>> all >> >>> the associated things you would in real hardware but with out the >> >>> expense >> >>> of building a home lab and buying all the real gear. Also, this >> >>> allows me >> >>> to easily carry from place to place simulated networks to demonstrate >> >>> features to customers or team members. It’s also a great place to >> >>> test >> >>> configuration changes. >> >>> >> >>> John mentioned that the disk layout is quite good and consistent on >> >>> the >> >>> Mac and also the startup disk location can be set before reboot so >> >>> that >> >>> would ease the concerns I raised. I guess I’m just a VM man because >> >>> I >> >>> like the access to everything at once and don’t mind working with in >> >>> a >> >>> hypervisor. Different work flows for different folks, that’s how the >> >>> song >> >>> goes right? :). You make very good points. I would think what you >> >>> want to >> >>> do could be easily done and you could just select the disk you want >> >>> before >> >>> you shut down or on the way up using a pre memorized set of keys. >> >>> >> >>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 9:19 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >> >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi, Scott: >> >>>> >> >>>> I always appreciate your viewpoint, so am responding at a little >> >>>> length. >> >>>> >> >>>> I find Fusion quite acceptable for the use case where I want access >> >>>> to >> >>>> all the OS installed on my system. One example of when this happens >> >>>> is >> >>>> when I want to view a web page via multiple browsers. There are >> >>>> other >> >>>> examples, but the point now is that there's a counter example. >> >>>> >> >>>> The counter example is when I'm at a conference, participating in >> >>>> the >> >>>> give and take of a meeting around a coference table--something I do >> >>>> a >> >>>> fair bit of. In this case I can only give partial attention to the >> >>>> laptop, though I do need to track minute taking via IRC, and such. >> >>>> In >> >>>> this situation I need no muss no fuss access to rock solid >> >>>> connectivity. >> >>>> For me this means the command line tools, and that means Linux. No >> >>>> one >> >>>> else comes close on the cli, though I haven't tried the new Windows >> >>>> 10 >> >>>> Ubuntu import yet. >> >>>> >> >>>> There's an additional reason why the counter example should be a >> >>>> single >> >>>> OS boot, namely that I don't want to hog multiple IP addresses. If I >> >>>> use >> >>>> Fusion, I find I get one IP assigned to the Mac OS, and a second IP >> >>>> assigned to the Fusion VM. There's no way around this as the Mac is >> >>>> essentially hosting the device and bridging the Fusion VM. This >> >>>> introduces latency and also makes me a less than good citizen on the >> >>>> wifi mesh. >> >>>> >> >>>> So, my analysis says either I find a way to triple boot my Airbook, >> >>>> or >> >>>> I >> >>>> don't travel with it. And, in my mind, the only point of a laptop is >> >>>> to >> >>>> be able to travel. So, either I figure out a triple boot that works; >> >>>> or >> >>>> I dual boot OSX and Linux, leaving Windows to a Fusion VM--which is >> >>>> a >> >>>> possibility; or I sell the Airbook for what I can get and get >> >>>> something >> >>>> else to use on the road. >> >>>> >> >>>> In point of fact I have not traveled with my Airbook on my last >> >>>> business >> >>>> trips. Instead, I took along an almost 9 year old Thinkpad running >> >>>> Arch >> >>>> linux with both Speakup and Orca. Actually, it was quite adequate >> >>>> for >> >>>> my >> >>>> purposes. >> >>>> >> >>>> So, it's decision time because these two end of year weeks are kind >> >>>> of >> >>>> free time for me. It's a good time to do installations and >> >>>> configurations of stuff for the coming year. >> >>>> >> >>>> Janina >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Scott Granados writes: >> >>>>> Hi there, personally I would advise against this and I’m most >> >>>>> willing >> >>>>> to hear opposing viewpoints on this but here’s my take. Using >> >>>>> vision >> >>>>> you have a totally accessible path to each OS. Using bootcamp the >> >>>>> selection of the OS you wish to boot is not accessible to my >> >>>>> understanding of things. If you’re in a hurry this could be an >> >>>>> issue. >> >>>>> I’m sure like anything it’s just a matter of memorizing key presses >> >>>>> but >> >>>>> for me fusion does so well I wouldn’t bother with the potential >> >>>>> headaches. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Just my $.02 realize that doesn’t answer your larger question of >> >>>>> how >> >>>>> to. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:27 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >> >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Hi, All: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I'm mulling a rebuild of the various OS on my 2013 vintage Airbook. >> >>>>>> I >> >>>>>> have VMware, and I've used it more or less successfully. But, >> >>>>>> there >> >>>>>> are >> >>>>>> times on the road where I don't need to switch among the various >> >>>>>> installed OS. These are times were direct access into one OS will >> >>>>>> be >> >>>>>> sufficient. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> So, it's clear that Bootcamp is there to dual boot OSX and >> >>>>>> Windows. >> >>>>>> But, >> >>>>>> what about a third booting option? Say I want a third choice, say >> >>>>>> Arch >> >>>>>> Linux. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I find a howto on the net for setting this up: >> >>>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> But, before I dive in to try and get it going, I wanted to ask for >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> experience and wisdom of any here who may have successfully created >> >>>>>> a >> >>>>>> triple boot configuration. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any guidance. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Janina >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >> >>>>>> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >> >>>>>> Email: jan...@rednote.net >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow >> >>>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative >> >>>>>> (WAI) >> >>>>>> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures >> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/wai/apa >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> >>>>>> Visionaries list. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >> >>>>>> list, >> >>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >> >>>>>> contact >> >>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >> >>>>>> itself. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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