I'm assuming you $500-$600 price you cite is including the full service 
telco plan since the devices themselves are $199-$299 depending on the 
model you get. In that case it's a bit disingenuous since a stream 
doesn't do phone stuff.

Can you define triple battery life? Triple of what amount?

GPS only provides latitude and longitude, it's the software that 
translates that into maps and POI. Nice thing is that being 'just 
software' means you can choose from a number of packages and over time 
they can improve them with just an update. What is your definition of 
complete POI information? It's hard to answer whether the iPhone does 
what you require without specifics. You can do a route from your 
contacts. Touching the address of a contact launches google maps. From 
there you tap Directions and the Start location is filled in as Current 
Location from the GPS. You could also type in another address to start 
from. Then tap Route and then change the view to list. I haven't bought 
a GPS app yet so I can't give specifics on how the POI stuff works. Last 
I search in the iTunes store there were 7 pages of GPS apps with 172 
items per page. So you can get really specific stuff like the GPS 
navigator for Cedar Point amusement park. You just won't find that scale 
of variety causing such specificity on other platforms.

What is WOSS, not to mention a 64 channel version?

The standard ATT plan for iPhone is unlimited data. Like WiFi or 
Bluetooth, GPS doesn't rely on the telco network unless they need data 
to give you POI or something.

There was a discussion thread on OCR in the past and it seemed that the 
main holdup for a KNFB Reader type app is the somewhat low resolution 
camera. Someday that issue should go away.

One sore point with the iPhone in the states is that AT&T has been 
criticized for poor service quality. Sounds like the FCC is looking into 
cracking down on the exclusive phone/provider deals so maybe this will 
go away in the future. The iPhone takes a standard SIMM card so it's not 
a technical problem and the web is rife with 'jailbreaking' sites. That 
said, different countries have different iPhone providers so it won't be 
AT&T in Canda or Australia, just in the states.

The nice thing that Apple put together in the iPhone is it is a very 
portable very connected generalized compute device with a simple 
consistent way to discover, purchase/download and install apps. A lot of 
other mobile platforms are weak in one of those areas. Not saying the 
iPhone doesn't have some weaknesses, but it seems to have less than most.

CB

erik burggraaf wrote:
> You're kidding me right?  $500-$600 on an Iphone and then $350 for a stream?  
> Get out'a here.
>
> Why would I want braille on my phone?  Well because for one thing, I have it 
> and use it, and don't want to retire my $6000 braille display just to own an 
> iphone and look cool.  It's faster for some things.  It's private. it's 
> quiet.  It's nice for reading ebooks in braille.  I have it now and like it.  
> Why would I give it up?
>
> Is ATNT navigater limitted to one company?  What will sprint users do or 
> users like me in Canada who don't use ATNT?  Can your gps give you complete 
> info at the push of a button, upcoming streets, points of interest, custome 
> POI's, busstops in locations that support the feature?  Can you make a rout 
> directly from your contact manager?  Can you call a poi directly from the gps 
> to get more information?
>
> My Windows mobile device does all this, I get nearly tripple the battery life 
> out of it.  I can connect a 64 channel receiver for woss quality even in 
> overcast or erban canyon, and I can do a lot more but I don't use all the 
> features.
> Do you need to pay extra for data and gps on this system you're using?  I pay 
> nothing.
>
> As far as OCR goes, it would come in handy for little things.  I can't 
> imagine snapping a book with it, but if it were fast and high quality enough 
> I might.
>
> The thing is, I know people do want their phone to be a daisy reader and an 
> OCR device because they tell me so all the time.  When I'm picking out 
> equipment for people, I get them what they need to be independent and 
> productive.  For some people that means the IPhone, but not for everybody by 
> a long shot.  No braille yet, personally for me that's a deal breaker.  Not 
> for most of my clients it isn't though, for them it may be the GPS, or the 
> OCR, or they may just want a very cool and highly functional phone.  In that 
> case, the IPhone meets the need and off we go.  Of course it's got to support 
> CDMA before it will compete with windows mobile here in Canada.  Rogers has 
> made many many enemies here with it's nondesclosure, heavy fees and bad 
> contracts.
>
> Best,
>
> erik burggraaf
> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
> Phone: 888-255-5194
> Email: [email protected]
>
> On 2009-12-23, at 10:26 AM, Matt Roberts wrote:
>
>   
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Do we have braille support on the IPhone then?
>>>
>>> How about a daisy book reader?
>>>
>>> Is there a good OCR package yet?
>>>
>>> What are people using for gps on it these days?
>>>       
>> Why do we need a Daisy reader on the iPhone.  If you want that, buy a Victor 
>> Stream.  We don't need braille support either! If I want OCR, I'll use my 
>> computer.  The only OCR on a phone is the one that runs on Symbian.  Why 
>> would you want it anyway? 
>> The iPhone has a built-in GPS receiver, so no external one is needed.
>> For GPS I use AT&T Navigator, and it works quite well.
>> I get a day to a day and a half out of my battery.
>>
>>
>> Matt Roberts [email protected]
>>
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