I don’t think that’s slagging Apple. For example, if I didn’t care I would have just switched to the other guys. I actually forwarded my concerns as Ray mentioned and also raised concerns about issues I had with Google to them directly as well. (I have better connections at Google) I care so I raise the concerns with the hopes things will improve.
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: > > Let's say Ray, people do slag Apple off on this list when something is not to > their satisfaction or that Siri isn't as good as so and so. For example you > can read mails from the past few days. Everyone is entitled to their opinion > and yes at times, I do criticise when it is needed. But at times, I think a > lot of people forget that Apple is good because we have voice Over on a main > stream computer. I know that many of us have got used to this so when > something isn't right, we will criticise and complain and we will take what > we have for granted. I am no exception. I admit that I do criticise and > complain and others will go on the defensive when they are called out for > doing so. There is no harm when something isn't right. So Ray, this isn't > about one operating system or another. It's about a wonderful service that > we have from a mainstream provider of computer software. You can have this > on Windows if you are using jaws but not using Narrator. That was my point > Ray. > > Kawal. >> On 25 Apr 2017, at 18:57, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Kawal, >> >> What causes you to think we want to “slag Apple off”? Surely, you are aware >> that most of us here use Macs and other Apple products with a fairly high >> degree of personal and professional satisfaction. As for the e-mail you >> mentioned, surely, you are aware that this was a spam e-mail designed to >> scare you? You were right to be suspicious. Yes, Apple’s accessibility >> department has undergone much revision of late and this fact can be hard to >> see if one has not dealt with Apple over the phone for a little while. I >> myself came from using windows and JAWS back in November of 2009. I can say >> without reservation that it is my firm intention to NEVER switch back to >> windows. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in >> >> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >> >> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless >> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >> >>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Before any of you slag Apple off, just listen to my story then you can >>> slagg Apple to high heaven! >>> >>> Today I found an e-mail which said that my Apple Storage plan was under >>> threat. So I got really worried because recently I had a lot of e-mails >>> which were all phishing e-mails and wanted to make sure this was not >>> another one. >>> >>> So I called the normal number which I normally called and after talking to >>> an apple advisor, he put me through to Apple accessibility who really >>> helped with everything. I'll tell you, he was great. He also said that >>> the department was open 24 7 and he gave me the UK Accessibility phone >>> number which I paste below for those who live in the UK. >>> >>> The number is: >>> >>> 0800 048 0754. >>> >>> Please give this number to your friends who use Apple. >>> >>> I cannot praise the person on the other end highly enough as he solved my >>> problems in about 5 minutes. However we chatted for at least 20 minutes. >>> He was so imporessed with my voice over skills as he said he spoke to a lot >>> of people who had lost their vision or who had come to use voice over after >>> switching from jaws. >>> >>> So now who ever wants to, can slag Apple off to their heart's content! 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