Ray, you’re not quite right on this one. Just to clear up a little confusion...
You most definitely can work with facial recognition. I do every day for
entering some data centers that are highly secure. They used to use palm
prints which obviously are very accessible but moved over to either facial
recognition or retinal / iris scanning. Facial recognition is very very
accessible to us. As long as you face the camera generally you’re good.
Retinal scans or the Iris equivalent require very fine pointing which you’re
right I don’t think a blind person could do. Phones that implement these
features though allow you to use the ones you want and not use the others. You
could for example enable facial recognition and thumbprint but disable iris
scanning. Samsung is one of the biggest players doing this now and they make
all these features very optional and configurable by a blind user.
One thing you might not realize for example, just walking in the front
door of a Best Buy triggers facial recognition. Your shopping habits are
tracked and there’s no special facial placement or pose in 3D space you have to
make to be recognized.
Hope that answers a few questions.
> On Jun 19, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The answer is that you can’t: period. Either Apple does something about
> this or I guarantee you there will be a heck of a holler all across the
> country. But wait a second. Let’s see what the facts of the case really
> turn out to be before we start chasing after every negative rumor out there
> as if it might be true.
>
>
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in
>
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott and others.
>>
>> How the hell is a blind person to use a phone if one has to use face
>> recognition? I for one have no sight, have never seen and can't even hold a
>> phone steady or in the right position for a picture to do its work. I've
>> even tried Tap tap C to aim the phone at something and it aims at the wrong
>> thing. So you know what I'm getting at. May be Apple will do something
>> with Voice Over to make face recognition do something for a blind person.
>> They normally work round these kinds of things but if they can't this time
>> then that will be a first hey!
>>> On 19 Jun 2017, at 15:53, Scott Granados <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>
>>> The new iPhone is projected to have some sort of facial recognition.
>>> The retinal scanning it’s been my experience does not work for a blind
>>> person. I have tried to use this in data centers instead of palm prints or
>>> facial recognition and the systems require the user to focus on a point.
>>> If you can’t see and focus on the point you’re a no go. Your mileage may
>>> vary as I do not have retinas and irises to scan. It’s more than just
>>> pointing your eyeball at a screen though if that helps.
>>>
>>> As for the S8 in general, you do not want th is phone it’s largely garbage.
>>> The finger print reader is right next to the camera so you smudge your
>>> camera continuously, the phone has had issues with crashing, it’s under
>>> powered using the Snap Dragon processors, and there’s a really bad
>>> implementation of the virtual home button. There are some interesting
>>> cellular features but over all the phone is a miss in my opinion. If you
>>> want to go android and try it out go Pixel or Pixel xl, specifically wait
>>> for fall and this years new releases of the Google Pixel line.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:17 AM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I thought I’d ask this question and see what people think,
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at the new Samsung Galaxy S8 today and must admit it’s a
>>>> bloody nicely designed device,
>>>> However it’s an android device so it will be a very big second choice if
>>>> I’m to get a new phone.
>>>>
>>>> A couple of things I did note from it was a couple of security features,
>>>>
>>>> Facial scanning recognition for unlocking your phone and also iris
>>>> scanning recognition for also security like unlocking your phone etc,
>>>>
>>>> Now what I want to know is,
>>>> Will iris scanning work for a blind person?
>>>>
>>>> This feature on the S8 has a depth related scanning so it can’t seemingly
>>>> be fooled with a photo,
>>>> And in my case I still have my own eyes although they don’t work one is
>>>> white with I forget what,
>>>> But I wonder will this work for those of us with eyeballs?
>>>>
>>>> And more to the point will apple even look at these types of security
>>>> features in the next version of the iPhone?
>>>>
>>>> Discuss!
>>>>
>>>> Simon F
>>>>
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