Ray, The video you were watching probably was focusing on the use of ChromeVox on a ChromeBook. ChromeBooks are a totally different entity both from Mac and Windows. To finally get to your question though, using ChromeVox on the Mac uses the ctrl and cmd keys much in the same way as you use the ctrl and option with VO. Use ctrl-cmd up and down arrow to move through major elements, ctrl-cmd left/right to move through with a little more detail. You can also use ctrl-cmd-dash to decrease granularity and ctrl-cmd-plus to increase granularity. You'll hear CV announce things like lines and objects when it's announcing its level of detail. You can also use the tab key to move through like you do in other browsers.
HTH Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 22, 2017, at 20:46, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote: So Tim, I looked at the video on Cromevox. What I ain’t understandin’ is this here. What key on the Mac keyboard works as the “search” key? I reckon that what they call the alt key is equivalent to the Mac’s option key but more info would be appreciated. Tell you what, Crome does seem to load way faster on the pages I’ve tried so far. Even on: www.newegg.com <http://www.newegg.com/> which has become almost unusable on Safari I can navigate it completely with Crome under VO. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! > On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I use both. Normally, when I go into Chrome, it's because something isn't > working right in Safari, so I use ChromeVox. When in some G Suite features > like Docs and Sheets, ChromeVox works better. The Admin Panel within the G > Suite is also easier to navigate with ChromeVox, although there are times > that I turn VO on to navigate tables more easily. That could be just me not > knowing all the proper CV tricks, or it could be that VO handles them better, > I'm not sure. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Jun 22, 2017, at 15:34, Mike Arrigo <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find the access with > voiceover similar in both browsers, but there are times when chromevox will > allow access to a site that voiceover has a problem with. >> On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> That’s pretty much my use case as well. If Safari chokes on a site chrome >> usually gets it done and vise versa. Also, there are times when things on >> safari aren’t accessible but more controls and features are available on >> chrome. >> >> >> On the windows side I used to use Firefox as well as a third option but on >> the Mac have been pretty much a safari and chrome user. >> >>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Actually, Chrome works very well on a Mac. It handles Google Apps services >>> slightly better than Safari does. It works well with VO, as in things like >>> the Item Chooser and other web-router items work fairly well in it. I swap >>> back and forth between the two quite often when certain sites are not >>> behaving themselves in either browser. Many sighted users in our schools >>> also switch back and forth when something is not cooperating. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 14:25, Mary Otten <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> It's an android browser, and not relevant if you're using a Mac. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called >>>> Lightning Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in >>>> >>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>> >>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless >>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> Have you tried with lightning webbrowser or google chrome? >>>>> /A >>>>>> 21 juni 2017 kl. 16:48 skrev Ray Foret jr <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, one thing’s for sure. You can forget >>>>>> www.walmart.com <http://www.walmart.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> With the Mac, the site is totally impossible to log in to. You get >>>>>> stuck and cannot go anywhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> You actually have to force quit Safari to be able to do anything with it >>>>>> at all afterward. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>>>> >>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless >>>>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use Safari. On rare occasions I'll get busy messages that make a page >>>>>>> hard to use, but it's uncommon enough that I don't really worry about >>>>>>> it. That said, I've heard plenty of people say they experience what you >>>>>>> do. I have no idea why this happens to some and not others. All I can >>>>>>> suggest is to contact Apple about it, maybe with some system diagnostic >>>>>>> files. When Safari is busy, hit cmd-option-control-shift-period. After >>>>>>> a few minutes, you'll be placed in a Finder window where you'll find >>>>>>> the file you want to send along. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 22:29, Nimer Jaber <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am wondering which browser all of you use? I often experience Safari >>>>>>>> saying busy, busy, busy… and it is very frustrating… I have to say >>>>>>>> that my browsing experience is far from delightful. Does anyone else >>>>>>>> face these experiences? 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