Hi Tim, Very cool. Would you happen to have a good link to get Chrome for my mac mini? I ask because I need a safe link because I am going to install it on my Work box and don't want to be guessing did I find the correct download link. Thanks again for all your diligent hard work. :) Chuck
On Jun 23, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Ray, > > The video you were watching probably was focusing on the use of ChromeVox on > a ChromeBook. ChromeBooks are a totally different entity both from Mac and > Windows. To finally get to your question though, using ChromeVox on the Mac > uses the ctrl and cmd keys much in the same way as you use the ctrl and > option with VO. Use ctrl-cmd up and down arrow to move through major > elements, ctrl-cmd left/right to move through with a little more detail. You > can also use ctrl-cmd-dash to decrease granularity and ctrl-cmd-plus to > increase granularity. You'll hear CV announce things like lines and objects > when it's announcing its level of detail. You can also use the tab key to > move through like you do in other browsers. > > HTH > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Jun 22, 2017, at 20:46, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: > > So Tim, I looked at the video on Cromevox. What I ain’t understandin’ is > this here. What key on the Mac keyboard works as the “search” key? I reckon > that what they call the alt key is equivalent to the Mac’s option key but > more info would be appreciated. Tell you what, Crome does seem to load way > faster on the pages I’ve tried so far. Even on: > > www.newegg.com > which has become almost unusable on Safari I can navigate it completely with > Crome under VO. > > > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in > > Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, > > Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless > iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! > >> On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I use both. Normally, when I go into Chrome, it's because something isn't >> working right in Safari, so I use ChromeVox. When in some G Suite features >> like Docs and Sheets, ChromeVox works better. The Admin Panel within the G >> Suite is also easier to navigate with ChromeVox, although there are times >> that I turn VO on to navigate tables more easily. That could be just me not >> knowing all the proper CV tricks, or it could be that VO handles them >> better, I'm not sure. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Jun 22, 2017, at 15:34, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >> >> When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find the access with >> voiceover similar in both browsers, but there are times when chromevox will >> allow access to a site that voiceover has a problem with. >>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> That’s pretty much my use case as well. If Safari chokes on a site chrome >>> usually gets it done and vise versa. Also, there are times when things on >>> safari aren’t accessible but more controls and features are available on >>> chrome. >>> >>> >>> On the windows side I used to use Firefox as well as a third option but on >>> the Mac have been pretty much a safari and chrome user. >>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Actually, Chrome works very well on a Mac. It handles Google Apps >>>> services slightly better than Safari does. It works well with VO, as in >>>> things like the Item Chooser and other web-router items work fairly well >>>> in it. I swap back and forth between the two quite often when certain >>>> sites are not behaving themselves in either browser. Many sighted users >>>> in our schools also switch back and forth when something is not >>>> cooperating. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 14:25, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It's an android browser, and not relevant if you're using a Mac. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called >>>>> Lightning Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>>> built-in >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>>> >>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless >>>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> Have you tried with lightning webbrowser or google chrome? >>>>>> /A >>>>>>> 21 juni 2017 kl. 16:48 skrev Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, one thing’s for sure. You can forget >>>>>>> www.walmart.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With the Mac, the site is totally impossible to log in to. You get >>>>>>> stuck and cannot go anywhere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You actually have to force quit Safari to be able to do anything with >>>>>>> it at all afterward. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon >>>>>>> Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I use Safari. On rare occasions I'll get busy messages that make a >>>>>>>> page hard to use, but it's uncommon enough that I don't really worry >>>>>>>> about it. That said, I've heard plenty of people say they experience >>>>>>>> what you do. I have no idea why this happens to some and not others. >>>>>>>> All I can suggest is to contact Apple about it, maybe with some system >>>>>>>> diagnostic files. When Safari is busy, hit >>>>>>>> cmd-option-control-shift-period. After a few minutes, you'll be placed >>>>>>>> in a Finder window where you'll find the file you want to send along. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 22:29, Nimer Jaber <nimerjab...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am wondering which browser all of you use? I often experience >>>>>>>>> Safari saying busy, busy, busy… and it is very frustrating… I have to >>>>>>>>> say that my browsing experience is far from delightful. Does anyone >>>>>>>>> else face these experiences? 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