And iPhone with the braille display would be much less expensive than the 
blandest waited well no takers. However, I understand people like them, I just 
think they are way too costly. Just one person's opinion.

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> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:43 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Les,
>   Overpriced compared to? Is there a mainstream solution especially for the 
> deafblind?
> 
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>> On 7/24/2017 8:39 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> In my opinion, all the no takers including the ultra or overpriced. The
>> ultra the last time I checked for the 40 so my will cost her about
>> $4000. Not worth it in my opinion for what you get. Anybody who buys a
>> blind is no taking device is really paying premium for it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive
>>> blindness note taker, such as the new Polaris, you might consider the
>>> varrio ultra. That has the ability to transfer files with a USB stick.
>>> And it also has note taking capability. It has an excellent warranty.
>>> Some people also find it more complicated than the traditional regular
>>> braille displays such as the edge. They do have excellent US customer
>>> support, as well as an online manual, and an active helpful email
>>> list. This display comes in 20 or 40 sell links. It has a text reader,
>>> word processor, PDF reader, spreadsheet viewer and others. What it
>>> does not have our things like the ability to fetch email or connect to
>>> the Internet. That is where you would need the full note taker, but
>>> then you're also going to be paying a whole lot more. And if you're
>>> good with your iPhone and your Mac, really, who needs that?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 3:08 AM, Caitlyn Furness
>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Personally, I love any of the Hims devices, so these are things like
>>>> the new polaris and the U2, braille sense line of products.  The
>>>> braille is nice and crisp, and the devices themselves are just very
>>>> well made.
>>>> 
>>>> I can’t speak about anything made by humanware except the brilliant,
>>>> but that’s a full sized display and doesn’t have the capability to
>>>> store files, just access what’s on the computer when you are hooked
>>>> up to it.
>>>> 
>>>> I think the braille edge from Hims also works somewhat like a braille
>>>> note taker, but am not sure on that.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had no troubles getting files from the mac onto the braille
>>>> sense.  when I attach it to my mac with a USB cable, the device comes
>>>> up like any other drive, and I can copy and paste things from one to
>>>> the other, although it takes a long time.  Of course, you can also
>>>> use a usb stick to transfer files, or the sd card.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH, and I’ll be interested to see what others have to say on this as
>>>> well!
>>>> 
>>>> Cait
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Amelia Sackville McLauchlan
>>>>> <phantom.va...@gmail.com <mailto:phantom.va...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>> 
>>>>> So am looking for some advice/guidance before I go out and start
>>>>> applying for assistive tech grant money.  I used to use the
>>>>> BrailleNote, but mine died a long time ago.  And even before it did,
>>>>> I was starting to run into compatibility issues between it, the
>>>>> program I used to transfer files to my old computer (a PC in those
>>>>> days), and the computer itself.  Plus, of course, I've since
>>>>> switched to Mac, which I don't think my BrailleNote was compatible
>>>>> with anyway.  So now I'm without a Braille device!  But I really
>>>>> want to get another one.  What's compatible with Mac, though?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Basically, what I'm looking for would be a portable, refreshable
>>>>> Braille device that I can easily transfer files to from my computer
>>>>> and back.  Because, although I might use it for writing sometimes,
>>>>> what I'd mainly be using it for is reading.  For example, I'd use it
>>>>> to read my papers when I present at conferences, or my
>>>>> poetry/fiction at reading events.  Though, I might use it for
>>>>> private reading too.  So are there devices in the Mac compatible
>>>>> world that will allow me to do that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, thanks.  :-) I figured that, if anyone would know, it'd be
>>>>> folks here!
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.phantomfemme.com <http://www.phantomfemme.com/>
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