I am waiting for the Blitab to come out. It is supposed to display a full page of Braille and will also do graphics. The cost for the tablet is $500.00. Peggy and Dixie Marie
Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: The orbit reader is coming out as I have been told that a new version has been finalised and the instructions for the reader have been put in to braille as my department did these instructions a couple of weeks ago. I work in the Transcription department at RNIB, (Royal National Institute of Blind people) in the UK and we do most of the commercial stuff that RNIB produce. The Chairman at RNIB started this project as he told me that it was his idea. So it will come out in due course as the factory are at this moment assembling the new version. It's just a question as to when it will come out and not if. Kawal. > On 26 Jul 2017, at 17:55, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, I know somebody in the US who has one. She got it at one of the > blindness summer conventions. They didn't have very many of them. But she > definitely has one. I have not seen it yet. Not in person anyway. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 26, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> There has been so much talk on other lists about the Orbit reader that it >> will come this or that month and it hasn’t come out yet. >> I really doubt its ever going to be released. But we’ll see. >> /A >> >>> 25 juli 2017 kl. 23:05 skrev Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com>: >>> >>> I doubt that the expensive ones will go away. Yes the orbit gives a >>> cheaper option, but it has been rumored to have a lot of bugs, it only >>> connects to 1 device at a time, and as long as state agencies are paying >>> for there clients to have them, they will continue to be around. JMO >>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The orbit reader is coming and it's going to cost £500 (nort sure what >>>> that is in dollars) but it's a whole lot cheaper. When that comes out on >>>> the market, braille displays, the expensive ones may be finished! >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>>> On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:02, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Did not understand that but well, if a user is dependent on braille, that >>>>> user will not feel a solidly-made braille display to be overpriced. >>>>> Understand that concept? But here is the thing. How large a market do >>>>> braille displays have? I dare say if if you can produce fantastic >>>>> displays and sell a thousand a year, think you could sell them cheap and >>>>> make a profit? Or would a million a year be more in line? >>>>> >>>>> I've never studied marketing and all that but can say that if a company >>>>> does not make a profit, it cannot stay in business. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/24/2017 8:50 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>> And iPhone with the braille display would be much less expensive than >>>>>> the blandest waited well no takers. However, I understand people like >>>>>> them, I just think they are way too costly. Just one person's opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:43 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Les, >>>>>>> Overpriced compared to? Is there a mainstream solution especially for >>>>>>> the deafblind? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/24/2017 8:39 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In my opinion, all the no takers including the ultra or overpriced. The >>>>>>>> ultra the last time I checked for the 40 so my will cost her about >>>>>>>> $4000. Not worth it in my opinion for what you get. Anybody who buys a >>>>>>>> blind is no taking device is really paying premium for it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive >>>>>>>>> blindness note taker, such as the new Polaris, you might consider the >>>>>>>>> varrio ultra. That has the ability to transfer files with a USB stick. >>>>>>>>> And it also has note taking capability. It has an excellent warranty. >>>>>>>>> Some people also find it more complicated than the traditional regular >>>>>>>>> braille displays such as the edge. They do have excellent US customer >>>>>>>>> support, as well as an online manual, and an active helpful email >>>>>>>>> list. This display comes in 20 or 40 sell links. It has a text reader, >>>>>>>>> word processor, PDF reader, spreadsheet viewer and others. What it >>>>>>>>> does not have our things like the ability to fetch email or connect to >>>>>>>>> the Internet. That is where you would need the full note taker, but >>>>>>>>> then you're also going to be paying a whole lot more. And if you're >>>>>>>>> good with your iPhone and your Mac, really, who needs that? >>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 3:08 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> Personally, I love any of the Hims devices, so these are things like >>>>>>>>>> the new polaris and the U2, braille sense line of products. The >>>>>>>>>> braille is nice and crisp, and the devices themselves are just very >>>>>>>>>> well made. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can’t speak about anything made by humanware except the brilliant, >>>>>>>>>> but that’s a full sized display and doesn’t have the capability to >>>>>>>>>> store files, just access what’s on the computer when you are hooked >>>>>>>>>> up to it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think the braille edge from Hims also works somewhat like a braille >>>>>>>>>> note taker, but am not sure on that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’ve had no troubles getting files from the mac onto the braille >>>>>>>>>> sense. when I attach it to my mac with a USB cable, the device comes >>>>>>>>>> up like any other drive, and I can copy and paste things from one to >>>>>>>>>> the other, although it takes a long time. Of course, you can also >>>>>>>>>> use a usb stick to transfer files, or the sd card. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HTH, and I’ll be interested to see what others have to say on this as >>>>>>>>>> well! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Amelia Sackville McLauchlan >>>>>>>>>>> <phantom.va...@gmail.com <mailto:phantom.va...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So am looking for some advice/guidance before I go out and start >>>>>>>>>>> applying for assistive tech grant money. I used to use the >>>>>>>>>>> BrailleNote, but mine died a long time ago. And even before it did, >>>>>>>>>>> I was starting to run into compatibility issues between it, the >>>>>>>>>>> program I used to transfer files to my old computer (a PC in those >>>>>>>>>>> days), and the computer itself. Plus, of course, I've since >>>>>>>>>>> switched to Mac, which I don't think my BrailleNote was compatible >>>>>>>>>>> with anyway. So now I'm without a Braille device! But I really >>>>>>>>>>> want to get another one. What's compatible with Mac, though? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Basically, what I'm looking for would be a portable, refreshable >>>>>>>>>>> Braille device that I can easily transfer files to from my computer >>>>>>>>>>> and back. Because, although I might use it for writing sometimes, >>>>>>>>>>> what I'd mainly be using it for is reading. For example, I'd use it >>>>>>>>>>> to read my papers when I present at conferences, or my >>>>>>>>>>> poetry/fiction at reading events. Though, I might use it for >>>>>>>>>>> private reading too. 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