Thanks, but I’ve never been able to get this to work. Sometimes, I have 
sections 1 and 2, but often I don’t. In this view, my touch bar is always 
blank, meaning I have no icons to double tap for removal. There’s no indication 
of what’s in the bar and what’s not, and focus jumps from section to section, 
if sections appear at all. That’s been my experience at least.

> On Aug 12, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Janet Ingber <janet.ing...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex and All,
> 
> Here’s how to customize the Touch Bar in Mail:
> 1. Select “Customize Touch Bar” from the View Menu.
> 2. VO-Right Arrow till you hear, “Section 2,” and interact with it. 
> 3. VO-Right and Left Arrow to review options.  Select the addition you want 
> with VOSpace Bar.
> 
> 1. Remove an item by going to Customize Touch Bar in the view menu.
> 2. On the Touch Bar, double tap on the item you want to remove. 
> 
> Not all applications have this feature.
> 
> Best,
> Janet
>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Note that using numbers for f keys doesn’t always work. For instance, you 
>> can’t use fn-accent to escape from menus, but you can do so to close VO 
>> dialogs. I’ve been using a Touch Bar since last winter, and I still haven’t 
>> worked out when this does or doesn’t work.
>> 
>> The option I’d suggest is to use the trackpad or keyboard commander. With 
>> it, you can assign any functions you use a lot to keystrokes or gestures, 
>> thus negating the use of the f keys to a large degree. Remember, too, that 
>> volume can now be controlled with vo-equals and vo-dash, so that’s two more 
>> you don’t need to worry about.
>> 
>> Finally, a quick note on the Touch Bar: you can’t customize it. macOS lets 
>> you, but VO has a hard time, and you’ll probably be unable to get anywhere 
>> with the process. At least, I can’t. Sighted help will be required until 
>> Apple sorts this out. You can use the Bar with no problem at all, but you 
>> can’t change what’s on it. Most of the time you won’t want to, but if you 
>> do, you’ll need some help for now. Congratulations on your upcoming Mac!
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, that's handy.  Thank you!
>>> Donna
>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Janet Ingber <janet.ing...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> The regular numbers row will act as function keys if you also hold down 
>>>> the function key next to the Control key, along with the VO keys.  All  If 
>>>> you want the numbers row to turn into function keys, hold down the 
>>>> function key and  swipe right or left on the touch bar until you find the 
>>>> key you want. Make your selection with a double tap.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> Janet
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm going to get my new Mac this weekend, and a question has occurred to 
>>>>> me.  To those of you using the Touch bar, how do you accomplish the VO 
>>>>> commands that used to rely on the function keys in combination with 
>>>>> another modifier?  I'm thinking of things like turning cursor tracking on 
>>>>> and off.
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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