I don't think my questions were actually a "doom and gloom response". I was merely wondering how these things would be done with no home button, not saying it was impossible or terrible. <I'm curious about it and hopeful that an easy, user-friendly alternative will be present.
Catherine On 9/13/17, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > Start/stop VO will most likely be triple press of the power button. > > App switcher is easy, as is home button. > > I always find these doom and gloom responses which always come up to be > quite amusing. > > Kind regards, > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +61 488 988 936 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 13/09/2017, at 16:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Also without a home button I wonder how we'll start/stop VO, use the >> app switcher and get to home. Probably using the app switcher and >> going home could be done with gestures but what about >> starting/quitting VO...? >> >> Catherine >> >>> On 9/13/17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>> Interesting, >>> >>> Samsung have a full screen no buttons face recognition and a finger >>> print >>> sensor. >>> >>> Why can’t apple do that also. >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 3:40 PM >>> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; >>> viph...@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why >>> >>> >>> I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why >>> Ars Technica / Ron Amadeo >>> >>> [Image removed by sender.] >>> Enlarge<https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/10-1.jpg> >>> / >>> This right here. This gesture. Doing this 80 times a day sucks. >>> >>> The all-new iPhone >>> X<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/apples-radically-different-smartphone-is-called-the-iphone-x/> >>> is out, and it's packed with technology. But one thing it's not packed >>> with >>> is a fingerprint sensor. Like many phones in 2017, the iPhone X goes for >>> a >>> nearly all-screen design, which means there's no more room for a front >>> Touch >>> ID sensor. Rather than locate a fingerprint sensor on the back, like >>> many >>> phones have done, Apple chose to do away with Touch ID entirely. >>> Instead, >>> the X is relying only on the new "Face ID" facial recognition feature >>> for >>> biometric security. >>> Face ID on the iPhone X uses a "TrueDepth" camera setup, which blasts >>> your >>> face with more than 30,000 infrared dots and scans your face in 3D. >>> Apple >>> says this can "recognize you in an instant" and log you into your phone. >>> >>> None of that matters. Face ID is still going to suck. >>> >>> This is not the first phone we've tried with a facial recognition >>> feature, >>> and they all have the same problem. It doesn't matter how fast or >>> accurate >>> Face ID is, the problem is the ergonomics: you need to aim it at your >>> face. >>> This is slow and awkward, especially when compared to a fingerprint >>> reader, >>> which doesn't have to be aimed at anything. >>> >>> Consider the "taking it out of your pocket" use case: If you're good, >>> you'll >>> stick your hand in your pocket and grip the phone so your finger lands >>> on >>> the fingerprint reader. Touch ID works as both an "on" button and an >>> "authentication" button. In one touch, you've turned on the phone and >>> logged >>> in. You haven't even fully taken the phone out of your pocket yet, and >>> it's >>> already on and unlocked. By the time you bring the phone to your face, >>> the >>> unlock process is finished and you're looking at the home screen. >>> >>> To use the iPhone X's Face ID, you have take the phone out of your >>> pocket, >>> lift it up to your face, swipe up to turn it on, and only then can can >>> you >>> start the unlock process. The difference is probably one or two seconds, >>> but >>> for something you do 80 times a >>> day<https://techpinions.com/apples-penchant-for-consumer-security/45122>, >>> having the fastest possible unlock system really matters. >>> [Image removed by sender.] >>> Hardware involved in Apple's True Depth Camera system. >>> [Image removed by sender.] >>> Example of how Face ID maps and learns your face. >>> [Image removed by sender.] >>> Demo of Face ID setup. >>> [Image removed by sender.] >>> Animojis, which move to mimic your facial expressions. >>> [Image removed by sender.] >>> 3D mask produced with facial recognition on the iPhone X. >>> [Image removed by sender.] >>> Face ID recognition along with a tap of the side button can authenticate >>> Apple Pay. >>> >>> Consider authenticating with Apple Pay. With a fingerprint reader, you >>> can >>> slam your iPhone on the credit card terminal while holding your finger >>> on >>> the Touch ID button, and everything will just work. You're continuously >>> authenticating and beaming credit card data at the same time, which is >>> easy, >>> intuitive, and hard to mess up. According to Craig Federighi's Face ID >>> demo >>> during the keynote, you now have to open up Apple Pay first, then aim >>> the >>> phone at your face so Face ID can work. Only then can you tap against >>> the >>> credit card terminal. That's two extra steps. >>> >>> A fingerprint sensor, because it works by touch, is basically active all >>> the >>> time. Anytime you need it, you just press it, and it will work. Facial >>> recognition has to be specifically started by an app though. So to >>> authenticate a payment, you now have to open Apple Pay first, because >>> something has to tell the facial recognition system to turn on. If you >>> ignore this and just put the phone against a credit card terminal >>> without >>> authenticating, I suspect Apple Pay will open and ask for a Face ID >>> scan, >>> which won't work because the phone won't be aimed at your face. >>> >>> There's also the "on a table" use case: where before you could just >>> press >>> the home button to unlock the phone, now you'll need to pick it up and, >>> again, aim it at your face. >>> We've kind of already experienced this with the Galaxy >>> S8<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/04/samsung-galaxy-s8-review-shiny-new-hardware-meets-old-software-habits/> >>> (and Note >>> 8<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/08/hands-on-with-the-galaxy-note8-havent-we-seen-this-before/>). >>> On that phone, Samsung didn't do away with the fingerprint sensor >>> entirely, >>> but it has such an awkward size and >>> location<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/04/samsung-galaxy-s8-review-shiny-new-hardware-meets-old-software-habits/3/#h1> >>> that the S8 might as well have not had a fingerprint sensor at all. The >>> phone design asks users to rely on its Iris or face recognition for >>> biometrics, and it's just so slow. The "Let me take a selfie" pose that >>> you >>> have to make every time you unlock the phone is slow, tiring, and >>> annoying. >>> It requires a pause and a level of precision that just isn't needed with >>> a >>> fingerprint reader. >>> >>> I will admit I have not tried Face ID yet, but it's hard to imagine a >>> facial >>> recognition system that solves the problem of having to carefully aim a >>> phone at your face. We won't get a chance to try many of these scenarios >>> until we get some extended time with the phone, but it would take some >>> serious magic to solve them. >>> >>> With a nearly $1000 price tag, Apple is billing the iPhone X as its >>> super-high-end, no-compromise phone, but the lack of a fingerprint sensor >>> is >>> going to be a big downside. Sure, there's no room on the front anymore, >>> but >>> plenty of phones have an easy and ergonomic rear fingerprint reader, and >>> it's something Apple could have done while it waits for that mythical >>> under-screen fingerprint >>> technology<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/06/qualcomm-vivo-show-off-slow-but-convenient-under-display-fingerprint-sensor/> >>> to work. >>> >>> Facial recognition is just not a good idea for a device that doesn't >>> always >>> need to be aimed directly at your face. I can't imagine Face ID won't >>> feel >>> like a big step backwards compared to Touch ID. 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