Well speaking only for myself, I can tell you that sarcasm even with facial expressions has no universal dictionary. It is one thing I wonder about using face recognition on IPhone as some sort of security. There are simply too many expressions, and interpretation of those expressions. It is one reason why audio description helps those from different cultures, regardless of eye chart score. Speaking only for myself, I feel even suggesting that sight and blindness are some two sided uniformed concept misleads everyone, simply does not work that simply.
Now back to dinner.  What is the name of the fish & chips heaven chain?
I hope it is national!  I really love all things seafood.
Seriously, words are neutral in my view, we bring to them our own definitions largely. meaning in my view that how we respond, the power to be insulted, in theory lies entirely with ourselves.
 Kare



On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

Well, you'd be surprised or maybe not, how many people in this world take
offense at my comments especially in emails.  Even in person.  With the
sighted, I think, cannot they see my facial expression? For the record, the
Lobster out east supposedly tastes better than the one in the west here. The
Oysters in Fanny bay are delicious, though. As is the Salmon.  Now, I better
get off this subject because, I too am getting hungry.  One of the chains
here has all the fish and chips you can eat every Tuesday.  The fish is Cod
and each piece is half the size of a dinner plate.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: September 23, 2017 12:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid

Offense is a choice, not an absolute...I thought your comment  was funny.
As for directory assistance on your IPhone,  Bell will credit past charges
and  you can have that for free.
..and it was likely Rogers.  They were my first land line provider, and
misspelled  my name badly.
To this day, even though Bell is my provider now, the misspelling remains
giving  me a terrific way out with telemarketers.
Tim has me hungry for seafood!
Karen



On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

I use Bell as my carrier for the Iphone and Shaw as my land line provider.
Shaw directory assistance is free.  Sadly, you get what you pay for.
The worst example was, Best buy has been here for a couple of years,
yet Shaw said there was no listing for it. Even after notifying them
of their existance, it still took them months to update their data
base.  Bell, the landline service has not made it to Vancouver Island
yet.  However, I think they charged me for D A.  Either that or it was
Rogers.  Regardless I was charged $3 per directory assistance.  I just
wanted to add numbers and addresses to my contact list.  Then I got
all these charges on my bill and was told D A was not free. Glad you
took my comment in the spirit it was meant.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: September 23, 2017 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid

I use bell here in Canada, and have never paid for directory
assistance either for my  Land Line, or my cell.
I suppose I will discover   how the iPhone works if I either  manage
enough   brain treatment that I can process the voices without acute
dizziness, Or  a voice I can use of a hardware speech kind  carries
over to Apple products.
Laughing at the video games  comment.
granted i learned to play blackjack in DOS, but I use my computer as a
professional tool.
Karen


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin
or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and
if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love
comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
Mandela.

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

Karen, we love you, however, SIRI uses Google maps I believe.  Even
Google maps is for the sighted not for ones who have vision
challenges, not their fault of course as there are more Blind
friendly
apps out there such as
Nearby Explorer.   As for Directory assistance, I don't know what carrier
you are using for it, most must pay at least $3 per call and in the
past, the operators spoke a different language then English so either
did not understand what you wanted, weren't really listening or when
you asked for a number, gave you the number for someone else that
lived in
a different?
State or province.  When you know the party is in the 203-area code
and they give you a number in the 602-area code, you know it is the
wrong
listing.
Your response reminds me of someone who has good vision and perhaps
uses their computer for just playing video games. Not shoddy work if
you can get it I suppose.  For me, I find that type of activity
infantile.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: September 23, 2017 9:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid

speaking only for myself, is not siri more of a toy anyway? leaving
voiceover,   for the serious work?
Personally I just dial directory assistance, since Siri  is likely
using less  current data.  Still I am not using  an iPhone anyway, so
ignore me lol.
Seriously, could not you just google the location for the number with
your phone  rather than ask Siri?
Just wondering,
Kare



On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

While I understand your frustration with the redundancy and somewhat
meaningless back and forth banter, I believe that it is just a
confirmation sort of thing due to the fact that mistakes can be made
in
translation.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 23, 2017, at 09:06, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:

One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely
obtuse
when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will
come back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a
Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well,
Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store name, and
I know there is only one such on that street, why don't you just give
me the phone number I asked for in the first place? Google does this
and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't get this right even
in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary stuff. What the
hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have other people
found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do all
sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real
world situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and
don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so
called
Assistant?
Mary


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