The name of the fish & chip place is "Salty's" I don't think they are out
east, though. I'm sure the east has their own sea food chain however. It
probably varies too as to where you live.  Where I used to live, battered
calamari or squid was hard to come by.  Here, 50 Kms north of that city,
most Chinese food establishments have spicy squid on the menu or
smorgasbord. Some even have muscles in garlic butter sauce as part of the
smorgasbord.  Too bad they don't have Escargot. I know, David you are being
too picky. One place even has shrimp and prawns on the menu of their
smorgasbord.  It's crazy.  For a seafood platter, you pay $14.95.  For the
smorgasbord where you can get unlimited prawns, shrimp fish and spicy squid,
you pay $15.95.  Take a guess as to what I got? Mind you, the fish was not
as good as it was at Salty's.        

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: September 23, 2017 6:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid

Well speaking only for myself,  I can tell you that sarcasm even with facial
expressions has no universal dictionary.
It is one thing I wonder about using face recognition  on IPhone as some
sort of security.
There are simply too many expressions, and interpretation of those
expressions.  It is one reason why audio description helps those from
different  cultures, regardless of eye chart score.
Speaking only for myself, I feel even suggesting that sight and blindness
are  some two sided uniformed concept misleads everyone, simply does not
work  that simply.
Now back to dinner.  What is the name of the fish & chips heaven chain?
I hope it is national!  I really love all things seafood.
Seriously, words are neutral in my view, we bring to them our own 
definitions largely.   meaning in my view that how we respond, the power 
to be insulted, in theory lies entirely with ourselves.
  Kare



On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

> Well, you'd be surprised or maybe not, how many people in this world 
> take offense at my comments especially in emails.  Even in person.  
> With the sighted, I think, cannot they see my facial expression? For 
> the record, the Lobster out east supposedly tastes better than the one 
> in the west here. The Oysters in Fanny bay are delicious, though. As 
> is the Salmon.  Now, I better get off this subject because, I too am 
> getting hungry.  One of the chains here has all the fish and chips you 
> can eat every Tuesday.  The fish is Cod and each piece is half the size of
a dinner plate.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: September 23, 2017 12:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
>
> Offense is a choice, not an absolute...I thought your comment  was funny.
> As for directory assistance on your IPhone,  Bell will credit past 
> charges and  you can have that for free.
> ..and it was likely Rogers.  They were my first land line provider, 
> and misspelled  my name badly.
> To this day, even though Bell is my provider now, the misspelling 
> remains giving  me a terrific way out with telemarketers.
> Tim has me hungry for seafood!
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
>
>> I use Bell as my carrier for the Iphone and Shaw as my land line
provider.
>> Shaw directory assistance is free.  Sadly, you get what you pay for.
>> The worst example was, Best buy has been here for a couple of years, 
>> yet Shaw said there was no listing for it. Even after notifying them 
>> of their existance, it still took them months to update their data 
>> base.  Bell, the landline service has not made it to Vancouver Island 
>> yet.  However, I think they charged me for D A.  Either that or it 
>> was Rogers.  Regardless I was charged $3 per directory assistance.  I 
>> just wanted to add numbers and addresses to my contact list.  Then I 
>> got all these charges on my bill and was told D A was not free. Glad 
>> you took my comment in the spirit it was meant.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
>> Sent: September 23, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
>>
>> I use bell here in Canada, and have never paid for directory 
>> assistance either for my  Land Line, or my cell.
>> I suppose I will discover   how the iPhone works if I either  manage
>> enough   brain treatment that I can process the voices without acute
>> dizziness, Or  a voice I can use of a hardware speech kind  carries 
>> over to Apple products.
>> Laughing at the video games  comment.
>> granted i learned to play blackjack in DOS, but I use my computer as 
>> a professional tool.
>> Karen
>>
>>
>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his 
>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, 
>> and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love 
>> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
> Mandela.
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
>>
>>> Karen, we love you, however, SIRI uses Google maps I believe.  Even 
>>> Google maps is for the sighted not for ones who have vision 
>>> challenges, not their fault of course as there are more Blind 
>>> friendly
>> apps out there such as
>>> Nearby Explorer.   As for Directory assistance, I don't know what
carrier
>>> you are using for it, most must pay at least $3 per call and in the 
>>> past, the operators spoke a different language then English so 
>>> either did not understand what you wanted, weren't really listening 
>>> or when you asked for a number, gave you the number for someone else 
>>> that lived in
>> a different?
>>> State or province.  When you know the party is in the 203-area code 
>>> and they give you a number in the 602-area code, you know it is the 
>>> wrong
>> listing.
>>> Your response reminds me of someone who has good vision and perhaps 
>>> uses their computer for just playing video games. Not shoddy work if 
>>> you can get it I suppose.  For me, I find that type of activity
> infantile.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
>>> Sent: September 23, 2017 9:44 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
>>>
>>> speaking only for myself, is not siri more of a toy anyway? leaving
>>> voiceover,   for the serious work?
>>> Personally I just dial directory assistance, since Siri  is likely 
>>> using less  current data.  Still I am not using  an iPhone anyway, 
>>> so ignore me lol.
>>> Seriously, could not you just google the location for the number 
>>> with your phone  rather than ask Siri?
>>> Just wondering,
>>> Kare
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> While I understand your frustration with the redundancy and 
>>>> somewhat
>>> meaningless back and forth banter, I believe that it is just a 
>>> confirmation sort of thing due to the fact that mistakes can be made 
>>> in
>> translation.
>>>>
>>>> Later...
>>>>
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 09:06, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely 
>>>> obtuse
>>> when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It 
>>> will come back and say I found such and such a place on such and 
>>> such a Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? 
>>> Well, Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store 
>>> name, and I know there is only one such on that street, why don't 
>>> you just give me the phone number I asked for in the first place? 
>>> Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't 
>>> get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty 
>>> elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on 
>>> Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the 
>>> real world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I 
>>> care not. But what about real world situations? You know, like when 
>>> you want a phone number and don't want to engage in meaningless 
>>> back-and-forth with your so called
>> Assistant?
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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