Hi Robin, do you have some credible source to support your belief about the level of security of a Face ID vs a finger-print sensor? I'm not sure if one is actually more secure than the other, just another method to do things. As I've mentioned a few times before, when the finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there was tons of noise made about it's probable lack of security compared to the good old pass-code. Now that we've had it for a while, many people are making it sound like it's the best thing yet and anything new won't do. We are all welcome to our opinions, but I believe that it is beneficial to base these opinions on sound research, rather than hear-say. You may be right in the end, I'm really not sure, but I haven't seen anything but arm-chair opinions so far.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 1, 2017, at 00:05, Robin <[email protected]> wrote: Why do you Beleive Apple's Face ID is SO Secure because Apple Says So? Personally, I Beleive Touch ID is More Secure & Gives Users More Security & Privacy than Apple's Face ID Would Apple go Away from The Norm & Keep its iPhoneX special by Having it be the ONLY iPhone to come Equipped With Face ID for a Couple of Years to Justify the Price? Probably Not At 10:59 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Facial recog is more secure than finger prints in this products case. > > But yes an identical twin would be required and then I believe may still > struggle. > > I'll be surprised if someone doesn't crack the facial recognition some time > soonn as they did pretty quickly with samsungs galaxy s8 version of it. > Which I believe is only retinal scan. Or was it iris scanning. > > But either way, > If the looking directly at the phone / screen feature is auto disabled if vo > is active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen there may be > an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone camera. > To me this is a forward thought. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn > Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours > - CNET > > Hi, > > While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the > eye contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be a twin to > be able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read. When the > finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there was quite a bit > of noise made about possible security flaws, and now we're touting it as more > secure than Face ID. I'm just not confident in many of these opinions out > there. Joe Public just doesn't have the in-depth data required to do a > proper assessment of its true security risks. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 31, 2017, at 17:32, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > > The thing that makes me sad is that Apple, by all accounts, including theirs, > is abandoning touch ID completely on the phone. The security issue is > specifically if you disable that part of face id that requires you to > actually look at the phone. I think I read that this will be off by default > if the system detects VO is in use. And this means there is less security to > the face id feature than is the case if this setting is left enabled. > > Mary > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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