And Ray, I must say it does seem more possible for sighted people to look down on us blind people than it is for us blind people to look down on each other,
I tried looking down on myself but couldn't see anything. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 8:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup. Ray I do not disagree with you BUT. If its too hot in the kitchen for you, get out. We ARE here to assist one another, not to cut them down. We may all have things in common, bit we are all different. So when one of those whiny blind folk bother to ask for help, they came to the right place. So cut them some slack. You were not born all-knowing, just like the rest of the human race. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact E-mail: [email protected] On 12/5/2017 10:57 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote: > Just being truthful blast it. I am getting sick and tired of whiny blind > people complaining we can’t do this or that when, if they would just bother > to properly inform themselves, they would see otherwise. Is it any wonder > that the sighted look down on us so much? > > > Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind: > > Sincerely, > > The constantly barefooted Ray > >> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:16 AM, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Perhaps its some blind people who don't have all the answers and go to >> those who are there to offer tech support. Why blame them for being helpful? >> Why waste your time being so critical? It serves no purpose. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, >> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact >> E-mail: [email protected] >> >> On 12/5/2017 3:33 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote: >>> Simon is correct. I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance what >>> so ever. Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals out there >>> are trying to make us blind people think that a blind person cannot set up >>> an iPhone X? Dare I speculate that some blind people are trying to make >>> the rest of us blind people think we cannot set up an iPhone X without the >>> assistance of the all mighty sighted? Well, all I have to say about that >>> is BS!!! >>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the >>> blind: >>> Sincerely, >>> The constantly barefooted Ray >>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes Robin, >>>> Why is that so difficult to understand? >>>> I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for >>>> the team I work with, And yes totally blind >>>> *From:*[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:macvisionaries@goog >>>> legroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Robin *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 December 2017 >>>> 6:12 AM *To:*[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:*Re: New IPhone X and Setup. >>>> Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX By TotallyBlind with ONLY >>>> PhoneAssistance Right??? >>>> or >>>> Are you LowVision? >>>> >>>> Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX Enjoy YourSelf >>>> & Your iPhoneX At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up >>>> today since I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple >>>> Accessibility to ask for assistance since I wanted to be sure >>>> everything went smoothly. The tech person did a screen sharing >>>> session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set up >>>> screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the >>>> screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held >>>> the 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10. >>>> >>>> For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most >>>> frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it >>>> kept requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found >>>> this added unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone. >>>> When the phone was finally up and running and I checked out >>>> settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds. >>>> >>>> During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go >>>> to an Apple store later in the week since I’ll need a new >>>> outerbox and screen protector so I think I’ll ask for assistance >>>> then in setting up the facial recognition. So far the phone seems >>>> lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of unlocking, >>>> going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem >>>> difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast >>>> and very responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where >>>> I’ll need to alter how I do things but as of now I am very happy >>>> with what I’m experiencing with this phone. >>>> >>>> Eileen >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>> the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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