Hi Janina 

 Waw,
I've never pulled the USB out during bootcamp so haven't struck that.

I will agree though that the process is bloody slow, I always put that down to 
my internet connection 
Possibly you have a corrupt config file somewhere that needs to be removed to 
allow that USB to be seen again by bootcamp.
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Hi, Simon:

I guess I'm just shocked at how slow and cumbersome the boot camp process of 
writing to USB media is. Frankly, I wonder whether there's just a log of old 
code there than hasn't been updated since the Pleistocene.


It's also very unforgiving. On my first try with boot camp I stupidly pulled 
the USB without first ejecting, and boot camp hasn't forgotten or forgiven me. 
DiskTool is happy with this stick, I've re formatted and repartitioned it on 
Linux with no issues, but Boot Camp won't touch it.
But, it won't touch it after tyeing up the Airbook with an hour's worth of 
formatting, downloading, and copying of files.

I've googled on this and see I need to go play with scm and nvram.
Sheesh.

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> HiJanina,
> 
> I don't think so as the installation of windows is actually to a new 
> partition which eventually becomes NTFS but starts the process as the 
> AFS, then after the partitioning in bootcamp is a GPT format, this I 
> don't see as an issue as the ISO file contains the required 
> installation files and apple can read from the ISO
> 
> But yes I do see what you mean, putting things on to a flash drive 
> will let the windows installation work directly from that USB rather 
> than through the middle man AFS
> 
> In all honesty the windows installation files can be found in one 
> rather simple smallish file
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Sent: Friday, 8 December 2017 2:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: podcast on installing windows with bootcamp accessibly
> 
> I guess as I think about this a bit more, I think I understand the issue is 
> access to the file system housing the iso image. I suppose Microsoft and 
> Apple haven't decided to give Windows mounting access to afs.
> 
> 
> I understand about Windows drivers to run Windows on Apple hardware.
> That makes tons of sense. But, why not incloud the ability to mount afs in 
> the bundle and install Windows directly from the iso image that's required in 
> the Mac partition in the first place? That's the quaintness behind this 
> lament!
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hi Janina
> > 
> >  Well in simple terms it's called drivers!
> > 
> > Windows by default doesn't include the apple device drivers for all apple / 
> > mac computers in their ISO files.
> > 
> > What the installation process does is download to the USB the apple 
> > bootcamp device drivers for the installation and then once that is 
> > done it starts the full installation,
> > 
> > There ar some windows installation features but it's mainly the drivers on 
> > the usb.
> > 
> > Once it's created you should have a look at the content.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2017 8:49 PM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: podcast on installing windows with bootcamp accessibly
> > 
> > Strange that bootcamp needs one to create a bootable stick, given how long 
> > that process takes.
> > 
> > It's quite common to install from an iso file, which bootcamp uses to 
> > create the USB stick. So, why can't it just install from the iso image like 
> > is so common in multiple environments, including with VMware on Mac, just 
> > to cite one example.
> > 
> > Just curious.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Aleeha Dudley writes:
> > > Hey all,
> > > I know there was a question a while back about this. Here’s a podcast 
> > > that shows you how to install Windows 10 with Bootcamp. without sighted 
> > > assistance. 
> > > The URL is: 
> > > https://iaccessibility.net/iacast-democast-14-installing-windows-o
> > > n-
> > > a-
> > > mac-accessibly-with-bootcamp/
> > > I hope this helps someone.
> > > Aleeha
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