Hi, I just need to get a good USB headset and I will be all set. If I can get this working, I can get rid of windows 10 in a vm and use it natively. Anyone know whare I can get one? Thanks.
Matthew -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 8:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: podcast on installing windows with bootcamp accessibly Hi Janina, Yeah but if you’re a total like me You get the reboot and then it all goes dark and quiet, and you have to ask for sighted assistances. I so wish Microsoft would put a fully accessibile installation means in to all windows systems. -----Original Message----- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, 9 December 2017 2:42 PM To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: podcast on installing windows with bootcamp accessibly No, not a bad config, just bad behavior because I didn't respond soon enough! <grin> This time I baby sat the install, ready to enter my password at a second's notice, and all went fine. Sheesh. I haven't had to work this hard on an install since, since, since ... Well, I don't know since ... Janina 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes: > Yes, Simon. I think possibly a bad config somewhere. > > I think I saw a message in one Google search that specified a list of > possible culpirt files, but I haven't been able to reconstruct that > search yet. > > I ran both the scm and nvram procedures I found referenced. But it > didn't seem to help. After copying all kinds of files onto the USB, > boot camp got locked into a "boot camp busy" message for a good hour. > I decided that was some kind of loop so blasted out with Option > Command Escape. > > Back to the drawing board. I seriously want this to succeed. I need a > hard look at the Linux support Windows 10 is now providing in its > terminal environment. > > Janina > > Simon Fogarty writes: > > Hi Janina > > > > Waw, > > I've never pulled the USB out during bootcamp so haven't struck that. > > > > I will agree though that the process is bloody slow, I always put > > that down to my internet connection Possibly you have a corrupt config file > > somewhere that needs to be removed to allow that USB to be seen again by > > bootcamp. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > > Sent: Saturday, 9 December 2017 5:23 AM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: podcast on installing windows with bootcamp accessibly > > > > Hi, Simon: > > > > I guess I'm just shocked at how slow and cumbersome the boot camp process > > of writing to USB media is. Frankly, I wonder whether there's just a log of > > old code there than hasn't been updated since the Pleistocene. > > > > > > It's also very unforgiving. On my first try with boot camp I stupidly > > pulled the USB without first ejecting, and boot camp hasn't forgotten or > > forgiven me. DiskTool is happy with this stick, I've re formatted and > > repartitioned it on Linux with no issues, but Boot Camp won't touch it. > > But, it won't touch it after tyeing up the Airbook with an hour's worth of > > formatting, downloading, and copying of files. > > > > I've googled on this and see I need to go play with scm and nvram. > > Sheesh. > > > > Janina > > > > Simon Fogarty writes: > > > HiJanina, > > > > > > I don't think so as the installation of windows is actually to a > > > new partition which eventually becomes NTFS but starts the process > > > as the AFS, then after the partitioning in bootcamp is a GPT > > > format, this I don't see as an issue as the ISO file contains the > > > required installation files and apple can read from the ISO > > > > > > But yes I do see what you mean, putting things on to a flash drive > > > will let the windows installation work directly from that USB > > > rather than through the middle man AFS > > > > > > In all honesty the windows installation files can be found in one > > > rather simple smallish file > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > > > Sent: Friday, 8 December 2017 2:22 PM > > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: Re: podcast on installing windows with bootcamp > > > accessibly > > > > > > I guess as I think about this a bit more, I think I understand the issue > > > is access to the file system housing the iso image. I suppose Microsoft > > > and Apple haven't decided to give Windows mounting access to afs. > > > > > > > > > I understand about Windows drivers to run Windows on Apple hardware. > > > That makes tons of sense. But, why not incloud the ability to mount afs > > > in the bundle and install Windows directly from the iso image that's > > > required in the Mac partition in the first place? That's the quaintness > > > behind this lament! > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > Simon Fogarty writes: > > > > Hi Janina > > > > > > > > Well in simple terms it's called drivers! > > > > > > > > Windows by default doesn't include the apple device drivers for all > > > > apple / mac computers in their ISO files. > > > > > > > > What the installation process does is download to the USB the > > > > apple bootcamp device drivers for the installation and then once > > > > that is done it starts the full installation, > > > > > > > > There ar some windows installation features but it's mainly the drivers > > > > on the usb. > > > > > > > > Once it's created you should have a look at the content. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2017 8:49 PM > > > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: podcast on installing windows with bootcamp > > > > accessibly > > > > > > > > Strange that bootcamp needs one to create a bootable stick, given how > > > > long that process takes. > > > > > > > > It's quite common to install from an iso file, which bootcamp uses to > > > > create the USB stick. So, why can't it just install from the iso image > > > > like is so common in multiple environments, including with VMware on > > > > Mac, just to cite one example. > > > > > > > > Just curious. > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > Aleeha Dudley writes: > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > I know there was a question a while back about this. Here’s a podcast > > > > > that shows you how to install Windows 10 with Bootcamp. without > > > > > sighted assistance. > > > > > The URL is: > > > > > https://iaccessibility.net/iacast-democast-14-installing-windo > > > > > ws-o > > > > > n- > > > > > a- > > > > > mac-accessibly-with-bootcamp/ > > > > > I hope this helps someone. > > > > > Aleeha > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > > > > Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > > > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > > > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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