Yes, I pretty much agree with this evaluation. I do find that most of the items 
in the that I want to use can also be found in the Menus. And any item in a 
menu for a specific application should be able to have a KB shortcut assigned 
to it in System Preferences. I have not looked at the scripting definitions for 
Office, but if they are close to as rich as the Office for Windows scripting 
definitions then a lot of ribbon commands can have applescripts associated with 
them, and then be used in  any of several ways.
1. VoiceOver commanders.
2. Speech Dictation commands.
3. AppleScript menu in the menu extras.
4. Used with keyboard macro utilities.




                Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 28, 2018, at 6:14 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Outlook for Mac OS is quite accessible, based on my tests of version 16.9 as 
> downloaded from Office 365. I notice, however, that it doesn’t offer the 
> range of keyboard shortcuts that characterize the Windows version. For 
> instance, I couldn’t find a quick way to choose a specific mail folder. 
> Attempting to invoke the VoiceOver Item Chooser Menu caused Outlook to become 
> “busy”. In addition, there are no shortcut keys for commands on the ribbon 
> (it’s the same in other Mac versions of Microsoft Office applications).
>  
> On the positive side, Microsoft developers are clearly investing real effort 
> to make their Mac applications accessible to screen reader users. This is 
> good. The logic behind it is also clear: they want Microsoft Office to be 
> available everywhere and to everyone who can afford it, even to people who 
> didn’t choose Microsoft’s OS.
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 2:24 PM
> To: [email protected]; 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Mail clients other than apple
>  
> Hi I am writing this email with Outlook for iOS. It’s very accessible.
>  
> Maria Reyes
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> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:50 PM -0500, "Andrew Lamanche" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Like you a couple of years ago, I tried various other apps on the mac, 
>> including Microsoft Outlook and MaleMate.  Neither performed as well as 
>> Apple’s Male and navigating round the various features was troublesome and 
>> not worth the trouble.
>>  
>> Andrew
>> > On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Daniel McGee  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Hello all 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Can anyone here recommend any third party mail clients that are 
>> >> accessible with VoiceOver and work between ios and Mac? Other than the 
>> >> default apple mail client. 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> No particular reason, I just fancied trying out something new! 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Regards 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Daniel
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