I did send an inquiry. thanks.

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On 5/12/2018 8:29 PM, Maria Reyes wrote:
 From what I know, Captcha be gone is supposed to solve the picture challenges. 
Go to www.captchabegone.com to read more about it.

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On May 12, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Consider as well the problem for those who do not read English.
They are a mess for many, hands down.


On Sat, 12 May 2018, Eric Oyen wrote:

hey E.T.,
Captcha is a big problem for far more than just us blind folks (although we 
probably notice it far more and far faster). There are some who have other 
print related disabilities that would make Captcha solving a nightmare. There 
are also those who are colorblind (both the red-green and the far rarer 
monochromatic type) and some of the images would not make any sense.

Now, I had a very big problem with dyslexia before I became blind and I know 
for certain that it would have caused me no end of trouble (squiggly lines in 
among other squiggly lines supposedly mimicking letters would be highly 
confusing).  So, this problem is not strictly one that exclusively targets the 
blind. Like I said upstairs, we just notice it a lot faster.

-eric

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On May 12, 2018, at 4:35 PM, E.T. wrote:

  Whups. (smiles) Let's get back on track here, Karen. Let's take a more 
practical approach to this issue as blind/visually impaired users. Like Captcha 
Be Gone, or Rumola. If I am not mistaken, neither of these will handle what I 
believe are known as re-Captcha. Are you aware of any blind friendly solutions?

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On 5/12/2018 3:21 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Mr. Cohn,
may I ask what makes you an expert on my computing, to the point that you would 
call  me out in this thread?
I make my  living professionally using computers as a part of my work.
I have no issues getting the job done, but this is how I compute rooted in many 
factors.
If I do not suggest everyone should use computers as I do, why do you feel 
justified in judging how I use them, never having met me, not paying my salary, 
nor last time I checked living my physical experience?
On May 12, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Google authenticator right now is the checkbox labeled I am not a bot. I 
have had luck with JAWS and NVDA and VoiceOver with these not proceeding to the 
more traditional  puzzles. I believe that Karen uses a browser with no ability 
to work with JavaScript, so I am surprised that she would be able to do most 
activities on modern websites that use extensive CSS and JavaScript to allow 
less transfer of information between computers and systems. If you want to be 
fully safe at ensuring access to all, then you will need a helpdesk service 
with the ability to disable authenticators on a per account basis (perhaps with 
a USB dongle with a security certificate). In general security / privacy tools 
don't trust the services needed by accessibility. For example, the new Firefox 
versions have a logo to indicate when accessibility services are enabled with 
instructions that say if you are not using a screen reader or other 
accessibility application and you see this logo you might have an application 
that is a security risk.

        Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On May 11, 2018, at 9:42 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  I've been playing email tag with someone who operates a web site that uses 
the picture captcha for people who sign up.

  We talked about the 2-step verification method where one gets a code via text 
message. He is of the opinion that this isn prone to hacks. He chose to use the 
picture captcha after his site was overwhelmed with bots that created thousands 
of fake accounts. He also mentioned Google Authenticator and Authy. Anyone have 
experience with those?

  Of late I have seen less of the captchas that uses letters and numbers and 
more of the picture captchas. I see the 2-step verification still but not as 
often. Due ti hearing, I've never tried the audio challenges but understand 
they are no better.

  I don't know where this trend will take us but no doubt it will go away. What 
do you all see coming in the future? I am most interested in the accessibility 
angle.

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