Hi Grant,

There's a difference between can be used outdoors, and designed for outdoor 
use.  Neither the HomePod nor the Sonos are designed to just be left outdoors, 
though Apple does say the HomePods have a pretty significant degree of 
water-proofing..  Re our Sonos, we leave them outdoors if the weather's OK, and 
bring them in when it isn't.  We've been doing that with our Sonos for several 
years now, and they still work just fine.

We've decided to make our Sonos last till the end of this season by simply not 
installing any further upgrades, and thus avoiding having to create an account. 
 I suspect that when we switch to the HomePods next year, we'll get some kind 
of case for them, since they don't have the hard plastic shell that the Sonos 
have.
Best,
Donna

> On Aug 16, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, where did you read that HomePod can be used outdoors? According to 
> this Apple support article “cleaning and taking care of HomePod”, HomePod is 
> intended for indoor use only. Here is the link: 
> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208435 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208435>
> 
> That said, the HomePod really is a terrific speaker and I’m very happy with 
> how it performs.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Grant
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, Jul 15, 2018, at 11:08:44 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's my feeling, too.  I figured there will be people who don't care, but 
>> any Sonos users should have the option of making an informed choice.  
>> Interestingly, my husband and I have been researching alternatives.  I 
>> didn't think you could leave a HomePod outdoors, but according to Apple, you 
>> can.  My husband also found a case for Homepods made by Catalyst, that says 
>> it will protect the HomePod in up to six feet of water.  So, I think we're 
>> going to be going with HomePods and ditching our Sonos.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> I will be sharing this article with those I know who might not be aware.
>>> Personally speaking?
>>> There is no way  in this universe that I would allow   that to happen..for 
>>> speakers?
>>> no.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
>>>> using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users 
>>>> register their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring 
>>>> that users agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  
>>>> Below is a link to an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was 
>>>> not able to find the mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage 
>>>> data sharing, maybe someone else will be able to do that.  But even so, 
>>>> the article gives a good overview of these changes.
>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fhow-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cef292d67cd46493fd42308d5ea7e0585%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636672749329211078&sdata=2uh6JG8QUIhFqg9tVj3puIXalUllHIcx1Nle4H1p5XU%3D&reserved=0
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>>>> For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
>>>> reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
>>>> Craig's list.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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