On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:35 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Donna,
Yes, I have found the same, with regard to swiping in order to find certain
buttons.
I am also using the scrub jester, a great deal.
I've heard wonderful things about that Logitek keyboard case. So far, I'm not
that impressed with the Apple Smart Keyboard. It's thin but it's not very fast
and it does not have an escape key. Try as I may, I cannot determine the use
of the function key on this keyboard.
Tell me, do you find that, even with the keyboard connected, you must still
continue to use the display to interact with the device? Does your keyboard
have an escape key?
If you really like the Logitek keyboard, let me know and perhaps I'll pick one
up. I'm almost certain they won't have any for 10.5 anywhere but either online
or at Apple.
Apparently, my poor little 10.5 is the proverbial black sheep of the iPad
family, these days. (smile).
Mark
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From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
Hey again, Mark,
I'm having trouble getting used to navigating the screen, too. At this point,
I find I'm doing a lot more swiping around, which kind of negates the benefits
of a touch screen. But for example, it seems like the only way I can get out
of a settings menu is to swipe all the way back through the options until I
hear the back button spoken. If anyone has pointers for navigating the larger
screen, they would be appreciated.
As for holding the device, I bought a Logitech keyboard case with mine, so my
plan is that often at least, I will just set it in my lap or on a surface, like
I would a laptop. I'm actually starting to wonder to what point this thing can
become a laptop replacement.
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Donna.
Wow! Good for you. Congratulations on your new iPad.
I purchased an iPad Pro 10.5 inch.
I purchased the Pro because I wanted faster speed, along with TouchID and the
ability to use the Apple Smart keyboard. Also, Pro has four amazing speakers.
Now because of a home office computer catastrophe that has since been resolved,
even though I've owned my iPad since Monday, I've only spent about 2 hours
working with it, so far.
I'll tell you that, while I love the sound quality of the device and the
display is amazing, I'm having a bit of a problem getting used to VoiceOver on
the larger display.
I don't like the split screen effect which, when I look at it with my eyes,
makes sense. From a blindness perspective, however, I prefer iPhone, so far.
What I mean by the split screen effect is the fact that when you land on
General settings, on the left side of the display, all of the sub items are
located to the right. I get it, I just don't like it because it feels as
though I am compelled to use both hands to navigate.
Also, I cannot, as yet, get used to holding the device. I'm so used to holding
iPhone in my left hand and using my left thumb to navigate the display.
However, with the size of iPad, my left hand gets so very tired, very quickly.
By the way, I have the recently released iPad 128 in the house, also and there
is definitely a speed difference between the 128, which was recently released
and iPad Pro 10.5. The 128, is noticeably slower, in my opinion. It should
be, the cost is around $250 as opposed to $1000 for iPad Pro 256GB.
It's funny, when I went to Apple on Monday, they did virtually everything in
their power to convince me not to buy iPad Pro 10.5, with cellular.
They were really pushing the latest iPad Pro and they even went so far as to
push iPad 128.
In fact, I went through 5 sales people, re-entering the store 4 times, before I
found someone from whom I felt comfortable buying iPad Pro 10.5.
One sales person advised that I not buy iPad Pro 10.5, go home, think about it,
then come back and buy the latest iPad Pro. I told all of them that I had
absolutely no intention of buying anything with FaceID, at this time.
One more thing, I am finding it extremely difficult and frustrating using the
onscreen keyboard with VoiceOver. In fact, in many instances, I am using the
Apple Smart keyboard to enter passwords and search terms although I, so far, am
not a big fan of the Smart keyboard, either. In short, the iPad onscreen
keyboard looks markedly different from iPhone. I did not expect this.
In so many ways, it feels as though I am having to re-learn iOS; something I
definitely didn't expect.
Be this as it may, I am in this for the long run and will definitely keep my
iPad Pro 10.5.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
Well, I'm now the proud owner of a 2018 iPad, and a Logictech keyboard
case. This sets a record for my most expensive impulse buy. Feeling
very glad for BestBuy's two-week return policy. lol
Guess I'm off to play!
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:03 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]> wrote:
I need to set this up again when I find a victim, err, a volunteer, so I can
make some practice runs and make sure I csan do this on the fly. The Focus Blue
5th as made this so simple and so far I like the wauy it all works. For this I
use the Drafts app because it opens directly to the text field.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
true?
On 2/23/2019 8:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hey ET,
That’s an interesting set up. I’ve always hated having to choose between a
braille display and a qwerty keyboard, so that actually sounds kind of
attractive. Thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 23, 2019, at 10:38 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]> wrote:
If you are ready now, there is no reason to wait for a new model.
If everyone was to wait for the next generation, they may as well,
well, wait forever. (smiles)
I have the mini 4. Its main purpose is as a backup should something happen to
my hearing. Its in a case with a qwerty keyboard. Pair the mini with a braille
display and I can communicate with others.
I don't use it much currently but that will change.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
[email protected]
Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
true?
On 2/23/2019 7:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Thanks. I'll check out 9-5 Mac and see what I can learn. But since I envision
the iPad being a very secondary device, I'm not sure I need the latest and
greatest.
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 23, 2019, at 9:34 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi,
2 things. First, if you're considering an iPad, I would hold off as if your
looking at a mini, apple says they are releasing an iPad mini 5th gen some time
this year. I think 9-5 mac has articles suggesting such.
Second. The iPad mini is good for the simple fact that it is only about 7
inches and is great as a small device if you do not have a laptop and you can
always get a keyboard to use with it if you do not have one already. I would
be interested in other people's thought as well.
Matthew
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:59 AM
To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]>
Subject: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
Hi all,
OK, so Mark has re-awakened the bug in me, and I'm thinking about buying an
iPad mini. But I'd like to do a sensibility check first.
I've been curious about learning Swift ever since Apple released Swift
Playgrounds. However, my interest is largely as a hobby, I don't see myself
suddenly embarking on a career as an app developer. With that in mind, I'm
wondering if buying an iPad is just a silly expensive purchase. Other than the
Swift Playgrounds issue, I've always felt like an iPad would just be redundant,
since I have no need whatsoever for the extra screen real-estate. so here's my
question. Do any of you own both an iPhone and an iPad? If so, what is the
value of having both devices? What niche or need does the iPad fill that the
phone does not?
Thanks in advance for any input.
Cheers,
Donna
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