That’s nice, Apple decided to add insult to injury and sent me an email telling me about the exciting new services they released this week. They know I’m in New Zealand and we can’t get these new services, but wanted to rub it in and tell me anyway.
> On 27/03/2019, at 9:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Nope, doesn't seem to make any difference when I test it here. The > arithmetic operations aren't announced, but the numbers are and the > arithmetic operation is performed for me. Not sure why it's being > uncooperative for you. Bummer. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Mar 26, 2019, at 14:25, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I can't guarantee it, but I suspect it might. I will test a bit from my end > and see if it does. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Mar 26, 2019, at 14:23, Jessica Moss <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I’m not sure honestly, should that help solve this? > >> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Hmmm. That's not how it behaves for me. I am able to use the plus, minus, >> times and divide symbols to enter formulas. I have the 2017 MacBook Pro, >> but I doubt that should make any difference. Do you have cursors following >> each other in the VO Utility? >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Mar 26, 2019, at 14:20, Jessica Moss <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> That’s the one, and I can enter numbers into the field, but have tried to >> enter things like the + sign, and it does nothing, so I have to find it on >> the touch bar, and enter it that way. >> >>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jessica, >>> >>> Which calculator app are you using? Do you mean the one in the >>> Applications folder of your Mac? If so, the keyboard entry still works for >>> me. That is, I can open the Calculator app, enter 27 + 46 * 3 then press >>> return and get 165, the answer. Make sure that VO focus is on the edit >>> field before you start entering and it should work fine. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 13:48, Jessica Moss <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Likewise, I’ve heard several people try to tell me the Touch bar was >>> “crap,” and I now have a newer MacBook Pro with a touch bar, and it’s >>> really not that hard to use. I wish they’d implement things like the >>> calculator back to the way it used to be where you could use strictly >>> keystrokes to do everything, sense I’ve always found that a little >>> easier/faster, but it’s all good though. >>> >>>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Petrus Tuerlings <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> I agreed with your comments, I asked quite a few people for advise on what >>>> Mac to get as I’d never used one before. All of them with the >>>> exception of one person told me to avoid the Touch Bar. And one person >>>> told me not to bother at all as the new flat keyboards were inaccessible >>>> and I should get another windows machine. So I decided to get the 15inch >>>> Mac Book pro with the Touch Bar and the nice flat keyboard. I love the >>>> keyboard and I honestly can’t see the problem with the Touch Bar either. >>>> Petrus >>>> >>>>> On 26/03/2019, at 3:14 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> While you are welcome to your opinions, and welcome to express them as >>>>> you wish, I struggle why so many of you keep bringing up the >>>>> accessibility question when a new Apple service or feature is introduced. >>>>> If my memory serves me, all the noise that has been made over the last >>>>> five or six years about possible, or probable, inaccessibility of a new >>>>> Apple service has been squashed upon release. No Home button, what are >>>>> we going to do? TouchBar instead of function keys, how will we be able >>>>> to turn VO on? There's more if I felt like taking the time. Consider >>>>> this, Apple actually thinks of accessibility every time they come up >>>>> with these new things, it's not an after-thought. Apple News was >>>>> accessible prior to Apple News Plus and I see no reason in the world that >>>>> it would lose that accessibility just because some new features and >>>>> content was added. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, go ahead and wait if that is your preference. I just don't see the >>>>> need to spew uninformed chatter without checking it out. Sorry, if this >>>>> was harsh. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 17:28, Maurice Mines <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just have ne point to quibble here? Wy pay for an Apple service when in >>>>> at the newsline can give you much of the same information if you’re >>>>> really after technological things. Do we even know if it even accessible. >>>>> Most Apple has guaranteed accessibility to the blind! Until then I won’t >>>>> be signing up. In appy Newsline it gives me what I need and I don’t have >>>>> to worry about fighting with technology in order to read it. Thanks but >>>>> willtake a wait and see attitude on this one. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >>>>> Amateur callsign kd0iko. >>>>> >>>>> On 25 Mar 2019, at 16:05, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I signed up for the free month trial of Apple news service. I am a bit >>>>>> baffled regarding the list of magazines. I know it’s only the first day >>>>>> this is out, so perhaps not too many have signed up for it yet. But I >>>>>> don’t understand why it would appear that I am not seeing the full list >>>>>> of magazines. When I go to the end of the very long list, I’m stopped in >>>>>> the case of my iPhone ex are with Southern living being the last >>>>>> magazine. They are in alphabetical order. On my 7+, which I updated >>>>>> first, I got as far as sunset magazine, which should come just after >>>>>> Southern living I guess, and no more. I do not see the Wall Street >>>>>> Journal listed, although it is a newspaper technically and not a >>>>>> magazine. Same for the Los Angeles times. I can’t see articles from >>>>>> those papers, but not the whole paper. I was under the impression that >>>>>> we were going to get access to the entire thing. The magazines look like >>>>>> the full deal. But those papers are not in the listing. I wonder what >>>>>> I’m missing. It looks quite accessible. When you double tap on a >>>>>> magazine title, it downloads and you can see the full listing of the >>>>>> titles of articles and features. Then you double tap on one and you go >>>>>> there. So that part looks good. But I’m just not understanding where are >>>>>> the rest of the magazines. 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