Hi Simon, No, I won't bother correcting you. There were accessibility problems with Apple apps and services over 10 years ago. But, as I mentioned, it is part of the release process in current Apple-land products to ensure accessibility from the onset. Do they get it perfect? Probably not every time, but it is not an after-thought.
Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 26, 2019, at 01:31, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Tim, I don’t think that was harsh, I thought it was right on the money. I’ve not yet found an apple app or service that wasn’t accessible through / with voiceover. Infact correct me if I’m wrong, Apple services / products work better out of the box than other products it’s only in the passed 12 months give or take that Microsoft have given us the ability to install windows without sighted assistance. I’ve been installing the mac os or IOS systems on my devices since I got in to apple products. 11 years for the computer and 10 years for the iPhone etc. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2019 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple news plus service Hi, While you are welcome to your opinions, and welcome to express them as you wish, I struggle why so many of you keep bringing up the accessibility question when a new Apple service or feature is introduced. If my memory serves me, all the noise that has been made over the last five or six years about possible, or probable, inaccessibility of a new Apple service has been squashed upon release. No Home button, what are we going to do? TouchBar instead of function keys, how will we be able to turn VO on? There's more if I felt like taking the time. Consider this, Apple actually thinks of accessibility every time they come up with these new things, it's not an after-thought. Apple News was accessible prior to Apple News Plus and I see no reason in the world that it would lose that accessibility just because some new features and content was added. Yes, go ahead and wait if that is your preference. I just don't see the need to spew uninformed chatter without checking it out. Sorry, if this was harsh. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 25, 2019, at 17:28, Maurice Mines <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I just have ne point to quibble here? Wy pay for an Apple service when in at the newsline can give you much of the same information if you’re really after technological things. Do we even know if it even accessible. Most Apple has guaranteed accessibility to the blind! Until then I won’t be signing up. In appy Newsline it gives me what I need and I don’t have to worry about fighting with technology in order to read it. Thanks but willtake a wait and see attitude on this one. Sincerely Maurice Mines. Amateur callsign kd0iko. On 25 Mar 2019, at 16:05, Mary Otten wrote: I signed up for the free month trial of Apple news service. I am a bit baffled regarding the list of magazines. I know it’s only the first day this is out, so perhaps not too many have signed up for it yet. But I don’t understand why it would appear that I am not seeing the full list of magazines. When I go to the end of the very long list, I’m stopped in the case of my iPhone ex are with Southern living being the last magazine. They are in alphabetical order. On my 7+, which I updated first, I got as far as sunset magazine, which should come just after Southern living I guess, and no more. I do not see the Wall Street Journal listed, although it is a newspaper technically and not a magazine. Same for the Los Angeles times. I can’t see articles from those papers, but not the whole paper. I was under the impression that we were going to get access to the entire thing. The magazines look like the full deal. But those papers are not in the listing. I wonder what I’m missing. It looks quite accessible. When you double tap on a magazine title, it downloads and you can see the full listing of the titles of articles and features. Then you double tap on one and you go there. So that part looks good. But I’m just not understanding where are the rest of the magazines. Nothing beginning with T through Z? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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