Hi Donna, Thanks for the honest reply.
I know a lot of folks world wide dislike the butterfly, Then there are a lot that like them, Petrus being a recently new convert likes his as does his wife like the keyboard on her mac book. Could that be as new users they aren’t use to the older format? Thought for all… I do wonder if apple are investigating options to replace the butterfly. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 7 June 2019 9:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: mac book pro 2017 I agree with the opposing viewpoint. I've had my Mac for almost two years now, and I've never made so many typos as I do with the butterfly keyboard. I kept thinking I would get used to it, but I haven't. I still hate this stupid keyboard. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Petrus Tuerlings <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Okay, I mast be the odd one out, maybe Simon has something when he keeps referring to me living in Auckland. But I think the butterfly keyboard is the best I’ve ever had. I can’t comment on the start up chime as I’ve only had a Mac for about 6 months or so. But it would still be nice to have one. On 7/06/2019, at 8:29 AM, lenron brown <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Those butterfly keys drive me nuts, and no chime that just breaks my heart. On 6/6/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Simon, Janina may be right :). No, it doesn't have a boot chime. I have a similar model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM. It's the one with the Touch Bar and 4 USB C ports. I haven't had any problems with my model although, like you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and some are stuck on USB A ports, of which the MBP's have none. Battery life is good, but not excellent. It's nice and light and handles processing big jobs well. If the price is right, I'd go for it. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! <grin> Janina PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014 Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough today, imo. I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking transitionally. You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui browser in recent months. Go figure. 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