Yeah that's true, Except for the current situation where I've completely deleted the OS from the ssd and it's now not talking to me.
I believe this might be due to file volt which was installed the first time I set it up before wiping it to install Mojave latest os version. Oh well gives me something to play with at work tomorrow. -----Original Message----- From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:14 AM To: Macvisionaries <[email protected]> Subject: Re: new mac books You can always use an external keyboard while it's at home or at your workplace on a desk (either Bluetooth or USB). On 6/11/19, 02:22, "Simon Fogarty" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: Thanks Janina, I'll let you know how it goes. Simon F -----Original Message----- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 4:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: new mac books So, good luck with it, Simon! May you be pleasantly surprised. Best, Janina Simon Fogarty writes: > Hi Janina, > > To late, > > I've grabbed the 16GB I7 pro and as for the keyboard well that's something I can't get around as apple don't make a better option. > If I get stuck I'll just make changes with a hot stick or something. > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, 10 June 2019 1:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: new mac books > > Hi, Simon: > > Being limited to 8Gb RAM might be a problem if you're running Win10, and especially if running in a vm. > > But, I should think a keyboard you don't like would be even worse. > > Can you hold out to see what comes from Apple later in the year? A lot of people are having issues with the newer keyboards. Seems reasonable Apple will do something about those complaints. > > Janina > > Simon Fogarty writes: > > Hi Janina, > > > > That' my thoughts also, > > > > I can get a 2017 13" air for 2504 NZ dollars, But it's got the > > custom build with 8gb ram, 2.2GHz I7 processor and 512GB ram, Oh and > > it's got the older keyboard style, But now I'm thinking I should > > just go for a newer pro and get use to the new butterfly keyboard as I'm guessing it's not going anywhere quickly. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM > > To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: new mac books > > > > Thanks very much for this info, Shawn. > > > > > > These days I'm preferring the smallest and lightest physical unit I can get packed to the teeth with RAM, CPU, and SSD. So, a 2017 Air might just be the ticket. > > > > Janina > > > > 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries writes: > > > I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did the startup chime in Mojave which is what I have. > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:03 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. I'm currently beta testing Catalina which is 10.15 so I can't say if it's still there or not. > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the > > > >> 2017 models still have the boot chime? > > > >> > > > >> Janina > > > >> > > > >> Simon Fogarty writes: > > > >>> Hi Listers, > > > >>> > > > >>> It's looking like I'm going to have to replace my mid 2013 11" > > > >>> MacBookAir, > > > >>> > > > >>> Currently the closest replacement would be the still currently > > > >>> available 2017 version of the mac book air, Apart from only > > > >>> being able to have 16GB ram in them it's an ok machine if > > > >>> spec'ed out completely, > > > >>> > > > >>> However what I'm really wondering is if it's really possible for apple to put the older non butterfly keyboard in to something in the mac book pro range? > > > >>> > > > >>> I've been using a mac book pro 2018 for almost a year and I still can't get use to the keys on the keyboard. > > > >>> Preferring my 11" MBA keyboard. > > > >>> Does anyone know if there is such a customize option for the mac book line? > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. > > > >>> > > > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > >>> > > > >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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