Hi, One additional thing to add to this, is that Kevin's messages do seem to be making it to the group from both sending methods. At least I'm receiving repeat messages even in this thread.
Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 25, 2019, at 07:33, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi, This is the default behaviour in G Mail within the Google Groups environment. Whether using a mail client, or the G Mail web interface, messages are not normally sent back to the original recipient. So, to clarify, if you are using a G Mail address while a member of a Google Group, when you send a eMail to that group, you will not normally receive a copy of the message you sent to the group. If you are a member of the group and use a different non-G Mail address such as an iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/> address, you will receive your sent message back in your InBox. In many situations, this is the preferred behaviour as it's unnecessary to always receive copies of messages you send. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 25, 2019, at 06:28, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Kevin, Okay, this is one to which I believe I know the answer. For whatever reason, if you send an email to a Google group from either the Apple iOS native mail client or the Mac OS native mail client, using a gMail email address, you must either CC or BCC yourself in order to have your original message appear in your Inbox. Don't ask me why this is so because neither Apple or Google has ever answered this question for me. I suspect this has something to do with the way Apple handles the All Mail folder on the gMail servers. There's a long back story about the glitch between Apple and Google when Google switched to a labeling system many years ago but the details are fuzzy in my memory and the entire scenario now seems kind of boring. (smile). Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:51 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can't reply to threads from Apple Mail Simon, I’m replying using the gmail address through which I am subscribed to Mac Visionaries. During the just completed thread on RWP, I did attempt to send several responses from this address in Apple Mail. I know these didn’t arrive because they didn’t show up in my inbox after I sent them. So, I would go to the web and write the responses that you all did receive. I know you received my web based responses because those responses came to my inbox along with your responses. As a test, I will send this to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> from Apple Mail kevj...@gmail.com <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>. I’ll wait a few hours and see if you or anyone else responds. If you don’t, I’ll respond through the web and explain that there was a reply from me that failed to arrive from my Gmail address via Apple Mail. Hope that makes sense. Best, Kevin PS. This is a second attempt from Gmail via Apple Mail. This time, I’m hitting Reply All in case that should make any difference at all. On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:39 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Kevin, When you say apple mail, that as you said is the client, What address are you sending from, When you speak of this issue? If you say you are sending from your apple mail client and the emails aren't being received, What is the address your sending to and how do you know if they aren't arriving / being received? -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2019 6:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Can't reply to threads from Apple Mail Guys, I’m hoping this thread will be considerably shorter than the thread I just completed. I don’t receive e-mails from this list because I simply don’t visit very often. 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